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Post by Swampy on Aug 10, 2013 10:01:16 GMT -5
I would like the vets in this forum to debunk this incident. In 1980, a UFO landed at a US high-security nuclear weapons base in the UK, and the commander and his aides were actually close enough to touch it. That craft later rose high into the air and, among other things, shone a light onto the base. You can read all the details here. They went on Larry King Live a few years ago, and the skeptic said there was no proof of what they saw. But eye-witness testimony from several military personnel of what they saw while on duty is proof.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 10, 2013 10:09:24 GMT -5
That was 32 years ago. What was the outcome? Nothing? No further encounters. No abductions. No explosions. No occupations. Must be whatever it was found us singularly uninteresting..... Or maybe there was nothing at all....
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Post by Swampy on Aug 10, 2013 10:28:45 GMT -5
Perhaps so, but the point remains that military personnel, including the CO of the base, Colonel Halt, saw something, and it wasn't a lighthouse.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 10, 2013 12:29:21 GMT -5
Perhaps so, but the point remains that military personnel, including the CO of the base, Colonel Halt, saw something, and it wasn't a lighthouse. When I was last in Vietnam, the O6 club served martinis in 8 oz tumblers..... nuff said.
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Post by Swampy on Aug 10, 2013 13:01:52 GMT -5
They were on patrol at the time. If people drink, then NO military eyewitness account would be reliable. Furthermore, if you were to say they were drunk, you'd have to prove your point.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 10, 2013 22:14:34 GMT -5
They were on patrol at the time. If people drink, then NO military eyewitness account would be reliable. Furthermore, if you were to say they were drunk, you'd have to prove your point. When did a Base Commander ever go on patrol???
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Post by Swampy on Aug 10, 2013 23:17:13 GMT -5
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 11, 2013 0:18:24 GMT -5
Two inconsistencies jump out: 1) The memo gives the time as 0300L. England is in the Z time zone not the L time zone 2) When describing the object, the memo uses metric units, but when describing the depressions in the ground the dimensions are given in inches. I am not that familiar with Air Force documents but, the memo is definitely not written in Army format. I leave it to an Air Force type to comment on whether the format conforms to Air Force memos. The sidebar admits later interviews produced other discrepancies, distortions and exagerations which can not be totally explained by fading memory. In other words, I wouldn't put my reputation on the line defending this account.
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Post by Swampy on Aug 11, 2013 1:37:37 GMT -5
I am not that familiar with Air Force documents but, the memo is definitely not written in Army format. I leave it to an Air Force type to comment on whether the format conforms to Air Force memos. The sidebar admits later interviews produced other discrepancies, distortions and exagerations which can not be totally explained by fading memory. In other words, I wouldn't put my reputation on the line defending this account. Do we have any Air Force types around??? Anyway, Colonel Halt and his colleagues appeared on Larry King Live, so I don't think there is a dispute as to the authenticity of the memo.
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Post by johnhsime on Aug 11, 2013 8:48:22 GMT -5
<What was the outcome? Nothing? No further encounters. No abductions. No explosions. No occupations. Must be whatever it was found us singularly uninteresting..... Or maybe there was nothing at all....>
There was something, and whatever it was did help set in motion the relatively more open minded view within the British government of the ET presence than we see in the government of the USA.
jhs
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Post by suffolksnapper on Aug 12, 2013 3:49:26 GMT -5
Hi, As a local to the area around Woodbridge, I am convinced that something out of the ordinary happened in Rendlesham Forest - not the base (RAF Woodbridge) itself. It is well-known that people living close by were visited by "man-in-black" shortly after the incident and quizzed as to what they had seen. This phenomenon has been very extensively researched by British experts and has never been satisfactorily explained. As for the lighthouse theory, that has been discredited by a local TV investigation trying to re-create the event. The explanation of the time is - the event took place at 3am, so 0300L is 3 o'clock LOCAL time!! You may find this link interesting: www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/ufos/SS
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Post by Swampy on Aug 12, 2013 8:30:25 GMT -5
Colonel Halt and his men were also interrogated by men in black, so there's no surprise. Can you tell us more about yourself?
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Post by johnhsime on Aug 12, 2013 8:45:11 GMT -5
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Post by suffolksnapper on Aug 12, 2013 9:54:06 GMT -5
Hi - I'm a photographer from Suffolk who has taken a keen interest in the Rendlesham event, and visited the site on a few occasions. It has been the subject of local TV documentaries where various theories have been tested and disproved. I've read the MoD documents (see posting above) in detail and firmly believe that there are still a number of questions that have either been glossed over or ignored by the authorities.
The Wikipedia entry has been discredited on a number of occasions, where local people have attempted to correct contents only to see the "official" version re-appear shortly after.
I'm surprised at the comment doubting that the Base Commander ever went to check on the event. Are you trying to say that an experienced US military office would ignore a possible UFO encounter at the perimeter of his command? (I use the term UFO in its literal form - Unidentified Flying Object - not its popular usage - a flying saucer!)
And is it conceivable that he would also sign his name to a document that was a figment of his imagination?
I doubt it!
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 12, 2013 9:54:31 GMT -5
Not the way a military man would write the time.... just sayin'
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