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Post by Deleted on Sept 1, 2012 17:04:49 GMT -5
I'm German and the head of the national and global incident, escalation and crisis management for one of the big global IT companies. Have things ever changed since I retired! IT companies were in their infancy and certainly weren't involved in the type of work you currently are. I spent seven wonderful years in Germany and still miss it very much.
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 2, 2012 4:29:51 GMT -5
just commenting on the ridiculous idea of non-disclosure agreements... This is a specific US-American solution and was introduced to have an additional lever to keep things below the carpet as the Pentagon now can sue you even after leaving the military - and so the military jurisdiction - in a civil court for compensation. This is aimed specifically for situations like this here when people decide to write books, appear in TV documentations, and so on. The criminal law stays the same as is, but for that you need to prove that harm was done to national security. So with an NDA they have a handle on you even if you didn’t committed a criminal offense. That is why they can say without any check of the book’s content that he is in violation of the NDA as they didn’t gave him prior permission. This NDA-system was tested here in Europe too, but in three recent cases related to Afghanistan a Dutch, a UK and a German court declared these NDAs as irrelevant or granted the in the UK case the MoD a compensation of 1 £. Since then these NDAs are just seen as a special psychological measure only.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 6, 2012 10:37:38 GMT -5
......and the latest on this issue
Few books have hit shelves in recent years with as much controversy surrounding them as No Easy Day. Written under the pen name of Mark Owen by a former member of DEVGRU – better known as SEAL Team Six since the Osama Bin Laden takedown– the book is the first truly inside account of the mission that killed the chief terrorist behind 9/11. That the book was published without the approval of the Department of Defense – something the Pentagon has made a very public spectacle out of – has created a buzz that has earned No Easy Day the kind of publicity that money can’t buy as well as the ire of a large segment of active duty troops and veterans who take their non-disclosure agreements a bit more seriously than Owen seems to. Whether or not each factoid can be parsed out as “publically available” the fact that one of the raid’s participants has connected the dots is in itself a violation of classification protocols. No Easy Day lashes up orders of battle, intel fusion methods, weapons choices (and SEAL procurement methodology), and mission planning sequences. There are insights behind timelines and rules of engagement. In sum, the book goes further than any of the recent flurry of war autobiographies in telling how things really are. Read more: undertheradar.military.com/2012/09/no-easy-day-art-and-opsec-violations/#ixzz25hjfDOA1 Under the Radar
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 6, 2012 11:02:08 GMT -5
If nothing else, this book is generating a lot of comments and free publicity
Bissonnette did not allow Pentagon officials to inspect the book before publication to determine if it contains classified information about the May 2, 2011, raid by SEAL Team 6 in Abbottabad, Pakistan. "Some of the things I've heard about the book, he could have some people looking for him, and I'm not talking about Americans. I'm talking about the other side," former SEAL Don Tocci told WBZ-TV, a CBS-affiliate TV station in Boston. Check out Military.com's review of "No Easy Day." Jihadists on al Qaida websites have posted purported photos of the author, calling for his murder. Bissonnette wrote under a pen name, Mark Owen. Fox News first revealed Mark Owen to be Bissonnette, and it was later confirmed to The Associated Press. More
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Post by boxcar on Sept 6, 2012 17:51:28 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Sept 6, 2012 23:50:46 GMT -5
>>Whether or not each factoid can be parsed out as “publically available” the fact that one of the raid’s participants has connected the dots is in itself a violation of classification protocols.<<
To begin with, the President has the final word on “classification”. If he chooses to revile a story to the general public, then it is no longer classified. And recall the White House version of this story was presented some months ago. (to enhance Obama’s prestige.)
That he has “connected the dots” is considered a violation of secrets, would you please consider what a good investigative reporter would do or what the enemy would do with the facts as stated?
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 7, 2012 7:39:54 GMT -5
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 20, 2012 15:15:12 GMT -5
Having read the book now I can say "much ado about nothing". Just another 08/15 military memories of a SF soldier, not even a good one. Yes, it contains some new details, but everything seen thru the scrim diffuser of a "real patriotic hero". I would rate it as below average, won't sell without the OBL story. Will not have a secured place in my mil-history library.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 20, 2012 16:00:22 GMT -5
I would have suspected as much. A lot of free publicity for a mediocre book.
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 30, 2012 9:07:09 GMT -5
Has somebody recently read anything about the legal consequences of this book? It seems that even the Pentagon don't want to proceed with all their threats or have I missed something?
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