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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 8:02:02 GMT -5
People today have a hard time picturing the holocaust , The German Army was considered a tough opponent not a bunch of murderers but that's what they were .
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Post by Swampy on Jun 30, 2013 9:30:42 GMT -5
Good point, but, even without knowing about the Holocaust, the Allies knew of some brutalities against the occupied countries, and Kristallnacht was a historical fact. They also knew of the Nanjing Massacre, and the atrocities against the Chinese civilians even after that was also known.
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Post by mcnoch on Jun 30, 2013 10:36:37 GMT -5
Swampy, do you think that war or occupation before WWII was less cruel? Do you think that the Napoleonic Wars was Champaign and Petit Fours pour tous? That the Thirty Years War was a nice picnic? War is always cruel. So WWII was not fought because of some horrible things done by one side or the other, it was a geo-strategic war, comparable in this only to the Napoleonic war. The Holocaust was something discovered in the closing days of the war, it was not the motivation for the USA. UK, France, etc.. were in the war because they were bound by treaties or were attacked later directly.
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Post by Swampy on Jun 30, 2013 11:54:51 GMT -5
It was a geostrategic war, but the atrocities of Kristallnacht and against the non-Aryans were already known, though perhaps not the Holocaust. Stalin himself knew that when he said that, if the Nazis wanted a war of extermination, they would get one.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 15:46:45 GMT -5
The Ukrainians welcomed the Weirdmact with open arms until they found out quick enough that the Germans were no better than the Russians
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Post by Sir John on Jun 30, 2013 16:46:07 GMT -5
There would be very few Germans soldiers in the Ukraine that did not know what was going on around them. They would have had a chat to dad and brothers next time they had home leave.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2013 17:02:04 GMT -5
That what I meant in a earlier post that the German Soldier was not permit ed to think but simply to react as opposed to the American Soldier who earned the right to think and knew the difference between a lawful order an ones that's not .If a superior had ordered me to shoot a bunch of civilians in VN I would have shot him instead .
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