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Post by dontom on Oct 21, 2012 2:28:09 GMT -5
Don - It's a battle you can't win on this forum, even if you were a climatologist. I ain't trying to win anything here. And notice I've never said a word about humans having anything to do with global warming, which is usually the big controversy. It is a FACT that global warming occurs naturally. So do most other things on this earth change in time. Even well before humans were here. Besides, IMO, the loser of a debate usually wins the most (by learning the most). I debate some things hoping to lose. -Don- SSF, CA
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Post by dontom on Oct 21, 2012 2:44:35 GMT -5
Then we look at the findings and if we take them as accurate, 1.4º F in a 130 year time span, is that really significant? It could be, but I ain't too worried about it for my lifetime. Think what a 1.4 degree increase per every 130 years will do in several thousand years. It all depends on what time frame it changes. But the important thing is to realize that a one degree average world change in temperature does not mean everywhere changes by only one degree. And that can cause some other changes and those changes cause even more changes. It is not nearly as simple as the conservatives try to make out of the issue. And likewise, it might not be as devastating as some liberals try make out of it. At least not during our lifetimes. -Don-
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Post by Swampy on Oct 21, 2012 10:16:11 GMT -5
It's snowing in Vancouver.
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Post by mcnoch on Oct 21, 2012 11:24:48 GMT -5
It's snowing in Vancouver. Interesting, my weather-app tells me that you have currently 10°C in Vancouver...snow at 10°C will interest a lot of meteorologists.
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Post by Swampy on Oct 21, 2012 11:39:41 GMT -5
On my FB page, another Vancouverite is saying she's not having snow - this is slush that is not sticking.
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Post by dontom on Oct 21, 2012 16:43:56 GMT -5
It's snowing in Vancouver. Isn't snow kinda rare there? It's cooler here than usual too, for this time of year. It was hot, just a few days ago. -Don- SSF, CA
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Post by boxcar on Oct 22, 2012 12:38:28 GMT -5
>>The point why 1.4° C matter is that many of your vegetation is optimized to prosper within a given temperature range only<<
Did you know that Alaska grows larger vegetables than the lower 48? It has a longer growing season. Also plants would do better with more CO2 not less as dictated by our EPA.
>>I agree with Danny, that it makes absolutely no sense to discuss any scientific matters here as many people are inconvincible as they don’t want to understand because they prefer to believe in political ideologies instead<<
It may surprise you to learn that there are those in this forum that actually do have a scientific background.
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Post by boxcar on Oct 22, 2012 14:07:34 GMT -5
And it is 1.4ºF not C.
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Post by boxcar on Oct 23, 2012 21:22:59 GMT -5
Lord Christopher Monckton, a WND columnist who describes himself as the “high priest of climate skepticism,” says there will be an investigation, and a conviction, if “Al baby” Gore said anything during a weekend visit to a “green” conference in Gibraltar that could be construed as advocating for the financial interests of his company, Generations Investment Management While the company remains largely out of the public view, its interests apparently lie in the financial benefits that could emerge should global warming regulations be imposed and so-called “carbon credits” become an issue. www.wnd.com/2012/10/monckton-threatens-al-baby-gore-with-arrest/
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Post by mcnoch on Oct 26, 2012 6:52:23 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Nov 1, 2012 1:06:17 GMT -5
>>The steady and dramatic decline in the sea ice cover of the Arctic Ocean over the last three decades has become a focus of media and public attention.<<
Yes, the Japanese current has shifted over the years. It used to warm the southern panhandle of Alaska up to Anchorage. When I was in that area in 1958, Anchorage temperatures seldom fell below 32ºF. Lately since the Japanese current has shifted the lows in Anchorage have reached -50ºF.
The Japanese current is now warming the Arctic region.
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