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Post by bluejay77 on Dec 23, 2012 7:30:31 GMT -5
The communists didn't need religion to do what they did. True, but at least they don't say they do their evil works because of some god (or other silly superstition) wants them to.
-Don- They have their own version of that belief. They say that the course of history makes them do their evil, and history will show that they are "right".
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Post by dontom on Dec 23, 2012 7:46:41 GMT -5
They have their own version of that belief. They say that the course of history makes them do their evil, and history will show that they are "right". Even though they are wrong, it still is not based on superstitious nonsense.
What might have worked well in history, probably won't work all that well today.
Besides that:"History repeats itself, and that's one of the things that's wrong with history." --Clarence Darrow-Don Quoteman
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Post by bluejay77 on Dec 23, 2012 10:37:18 GMT -5
They have their own version of that belief. They say that the course of history makes them do their evil, and history will show that they are "right". Even though they are wrong, it still is not based on superstitious nonsense.
What might have worked well in history, probably won't work all that well today.
Besides that:"History repeats itself, and that's one of the things that's wrong with history." --Clarence Darrow-Don Quoteman Well -- Marxist dialecticism is to a large extent based on Hegel's philosophy, according to which there is a mystical metaphysical force driving human history -- and the Marxists believe in this "world spirit", which of course is as real as Santa Claus, or Quetzalcoatl. Believing that what previously worked in history will in the future work well in history is simply a logical fallacy. "Yesterday I walked across this street at 16:30PM unharmed, so I can today walk across the same street at 16:30PM equally safe." I think there is in the Wikipedia a list of logical fallacies. Someone said that those who will not learn from history are doomed to reexperience it. Well I agree that the demand for truth is and has always been much smaller than the supply, as I think Don said earlier.
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Post by Swampy on Dec 23, 2012 10:39:04 GMT -5
Someone said that those who will not learn from history are doomed to reexperience it. Well I agree that the demand for truth is and has always been much smaller than the supply, as I think Don said earlier. George Santayana said that.
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Post by bluejay77 on Dec 23, 2012 11:11:54 GMT -5
Even though they are wrong, it still is not based on superstitious nonsense.
What might have worked well in history, probably won't work all that well today.
Besides that:"History repeats itself, and that's one of the things that's wrong with history." --Clarence Darrow-Don Quoteman Well -- Marxist dialecticism is to a large extent based on Hegel's philosophy, according to which there is a mystical metaphysical force driving human history -- and the Marxists believe in this "world spirit", which of course is as real as Santa Claus, or Quetzalcoatl. Believing that what previously worked in history will in the future work well in history is simply a logical fallacy. "Yesterday I walked across this street at 16:30PM unharmed, so I can today walk across the same street at 16:30PM equally safe." I think there is in the Wikipedia a list of logical fallacies. Someone said that those who will not learn from history are doomed to reexperience it. Well I agree that the demand for truth is and has always been much smaller than the supply, as I think Don said earlier. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fallacies
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Post by dontom on Dec 24, 2012 8:34:24 GMT -5
Well I agree that the demand for truth is and has always been much smaller than the supply, as I think Don said earlier. "As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand." --Josh Billings-Don Quoteman
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