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Post by Swampy on Feb 10, 2013 20:36:21 GMT -5
... where would you cut? I would start by perhaps cutting any frills at West Point, and maybe merging the recruiting agencies. I would also cut a lot from DARPA, because we're so far ahead we don't need to get any further ahead.
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Post by Sir John on Feb 11, 2013 0:19:26 GMT -5
Less fancy new ships at $2 billion a copy, and less fancy new planes at $100 million a copy.
Less tanks at $10 million a copy, and less gold toilets at $500 each.
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Feb 11, 2013 1:00:13 GMT -5
Especially since the planes can't fly - but at least the gold toilets work (I hope).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2013 9:14:47 GMT -5
I hope you're speaking with tongue firmly in cheek regarding the gold toilets. FYI, the company for which I worked did in fact install all gold faucets, etc, on a number of planes, primarily 707 types. Not to mention the most up to date communications suites available this side of the US military planes. However, these were custom designed for mid East oil rich Arabs. We also were responsible for the Presidential fleet. While these were nicer than the average civilian passenger planes, there was nothing in them that was wasteful.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Feb 11, 2013 12:51:25 GMT -5
I was just one little LTC, in one little detachment, on one little post in the US Army, but I spent many, many bucks at the end of each fiscal year so we would not be under budget. Becaue, as everyone knew, if you came in under budget at the end of the fiscal year, your budget for next year would be cut and you'd be less of a 'player' than the guy next door. Wonder how much could be saved if you were allowed to 'roll over' unspent funds at the end of the fiscal year???
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 22:05:29 GMT -5
One thing that could be cut is the excess of officers , there is / are far too many , every sucessful Army back to the stone age was run by NCO's or Sou's officers , having Officers is like running two different Armies , Officers have to have this the enlisted that , the Average NVA company had one Officer and they all shoveled s--t together , good soldiers excellent fighters and no frills .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 9:31:44 GMT -5
This is one of the very rare occasions that tet has had anything to say that I totally agree with.
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Post by Swampy on Feb 15, 2013 11:08:44 GMT -5
I thought officers and enlisted men had the same food and crawled in the mud together.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 11:21:36 GMT -5
Overly simplified , anyone who has spent any time in the Army knows that NCO's run the show , Officers are glorified supervisors .
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 15:52:18 GMT -5
Yep.
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Post by boxcar on Feb 16, 2013 0:14:10 GMT -5
You two seem to pat yourseves on the back,. I have seen officers that were not worth dittily, on the other hand I have seen exceptional officiers, which were a credit to their profession.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 9:22:33 GMT -5
You two seem to pat yourseves on the back,. I have seen officers that were not worth dittily, on the other hand I have seen exceptional officiers, which were a credit to their profession. I just had a group picture taken of myself. I had the good fortune to work for a number of excellent officers. In every case, they relied heavily on their NCOs, particularly their senior NCOs, to ensure that the job got done properly. Generally speaking, an officer that didn't know how to use his NCOs didn't last very long. As example of how valuable the NCO used to be (and probably still is) in the British Army. I used to work liaison with the 17/21st Lancers Regt while stationed in Germany (they are the Charge of the Light Brigade folks). A brand new Regimental Sergeant Major was assigned to the unit and reported to the Regt Commander. The Lt Col took one look at him and told him he had six weeks to grow a "proper" mustache or the men wouldn't respect him. He went off to some "training" course for a few weeks and came back with said mustache at which point he effectively took over the running of the regiment, including espcially the junior officers. He answered to the Regiment Commander and no one else. Even the junior officers saluted him, although he initiated the salute. This may have been an unusual case but it was true.
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Post by Sir John on Feb 16, 2013 13:40:42 GMT -5
The 'Chain of Command' is vital in any army that is not a rabble.
(Asst Pte, 3rd Class, SJ)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2013 19:41:43 GMT -5
Depends on how many links you need in the chain . going back a bit , the Century or company of 100 in a Roman Legion had one officer the Centurion ( Captian ) all the rest were NCO's or leaders of 10 ( squad ) , hardly rabble .
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Post by boxcar on Feb 16, 2013 21:25:19 GMT -5
All right Mulle, take it back one step farther (300 years) to the day Alexander the Great. Who were the NCO's that kept the officers out of trouble? It seemed to be no more than one big gaggle.
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