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Post by dontom on Mar 21, 2019 9:12:18 GMT -5
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Post by Sir John on Mar 21, 2019 9:38:35 GMT -5
Agree, very interesting.
Since Trump first came onto the scene in about 2015 the BS has come thick and fast from the 'Media/Democrat/Global Warming Axis'. The three conspirators have spent ALL of their cred and reputation since then, and I accept very little of what I find in that media.
I am certain they all have groups of very clever people fabricating 'information' designed to deceive the people into the direction the Axis wants. Much of the world's middle class in so uninformed that they are putty in the media's hands.
SJ
OT - Can someone tell me where that man's very clear accent is from? It is very confusing talking to an American if he suddenly pronounces words in a regional accent that is unintelligable to me.
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Post by Swampy on Mar 21, 2019 10:14:47 GMT -5
That's been true since cavemen invented writing. In fact, it's been true since they began speaking.
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Post by Sir John on Mar 21, 2019 11:40:00 GMT -5
You are older than you look! I don't remember meeting you back then.
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Post by dontom on Mar 21, 2019 12:18:46 GMT -5
Agree, very interesting. Since Trump first came onto the scene in about 2015 the BS has come thick and fast from the 'Media/Democrat/Global Warming Axis'. The three conspirators have spent ALL of their cred and reputation since then, and I accept very little of what I find in that media. I am certain they all have groups of very clever people fabricating 'information' designed to deceive the people into the direction the Axis wants. Much of the world's middle class in so uninformed that they are putty in the media's hands. SJ OT - Can someone tell me where that man's very clear accent is from? It is very confusing talking to an American if he suddenly pronounces words in a regional accent that is unintelligable to me. I could not care less about the political BS about GW/CC. It is a scientific issue, not a political one. And science confirms it happens countless ways.. Those who say otherwise are only interested in the politics which is full of lies on both sides. Science is science, not politics. -Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Sir John on Mar 21, 2019 14:02:57 GMT -5
Telling me that ice melts in a MINUS 20 degrees Celcius environment is NOT "science" it is deliberate, deceptive BULLSHIT!
Any 'scientist' that makes such a claim has NIL cred! And in my never humble view does in fact have an ulterior political motive.
SJ
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Post by dontom on Mar 21, 2019 23:16:37 GMT -5
Telling me that ice melts in a MINUS 20 degrees Celcius environment is NOT "science" it is deliberate, deceptive BULLSHIT! Any 'scientist' that makes such a claim has NIL cred! And in my never humble view does in fact have an ulterior political motive. SJ Where did you see that claim? -Don- |
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Post by Sir John on Mar 22, 2019 0:33:27 GMT -5
Many reports about Ice shelf breaks in Antarctica.
Ask Mr Google about average temperatures, minimums and maximums etc on the Antarctic continent. All claimed to be result of global warming.
Surely you have come across them, they come out every week!
SJ
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Post by dontom on Mar 22, 2019 0:51:54 GMT -5
Many reports about Ice shelf breaks in Antarctica. Ask Mr Google about average temperatures, minimums and maximums etc on the Antarctic continent. All claimed to be result of global warming. Surely you have come across them, they come out every week! SJ What I want to see is who is claiming that ice melts at -20C, which is your claim. Also, what makes you think ice cannot break at -20C (-4F)? Icebergs travel with ocean currents and can break apart. I assume temperature can play a part in how easily they break apart. -Don- |
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Post by Sir John on Mar 22, 2019 11:50:23 GMT -5
www.google.com/search?q=Antarctica+ice+is+melting&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8Keep in mind that much of these claims of melting ice is set at the Antarctic Peninsula which extends almost all the way to Cape Horn and Drake's Passage. Much of that area is in fact NORTH of the Antarctic Circle, and some of it is even ice and snow free, almost certainly because of volcanic action, as some islands are free of ice and the one next door is covered in it. The 3 most common examples given of large ice breaks are Larsen A, B, and C. Two (A and B) are wholey north of the Circle and the other south of it. Even those are over zero Celsius only for a few days in summer so a massive melt is impossible. And ice shelf breaks are NOT caused by the ice melting, it is caused by the weight of that ice on a moving and tidal sea, as it has been doing for many 1000s of years. Again, ice does NOT melt in a zero temperature! ..or my Science Master is a liar! SJ
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Post by Sir John on Mar 22, 2019 12:07:56 GMT -5
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Post by dontom on Mar 22, 2019 14:01:20 GMT -5
I have only heard about the ice melting around GreenLand--not Antarctica. Can you show me a link where it is claimed the ice is melting in Antarctica? In a quick search, I can only find stuff that says the opposite: "In contrast to the melting of the Arctic sea ice, sea ice around Antarctica was expanding as of 2013."-Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Sir John on Mar 22, 2019 14:11:55 GMT -5
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Post by dontom on Mar 22, 2019 14:29:02 GMT -5
" With an assist from gravity, a deep current of warm water slips beneath the sheet, melting it from below until it becomes a floating shelf at risk of breaking away."
Is that what you're having trouble buying into, that warm ocean currents can melt ice?
-Don- Reno, NV
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Post by Sir John on Mar 22, 2019 14:54:10 GMT -5
Sorry, but the ice sheet is ALREADY floating! That is what an Ice Sheet does after it has been forced from land to sea by its sheer volume.
SJ
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