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Post by Swampy on Nov 19, 2012 1:59:18 GMT -5
Britain's Council for the Defense of British Universities has voiced concerns as to how financial cutbacks are changing the nature of post-secondary education. At the same time, Tisch Asia, a branch of NYU's Tisch School of the Arts, will be closing, again for financial reasons. This is part of the brutal restructuring that is going on all over the world. Tisch Asia's closing is actually a good sign, because it shows the effects of creative destruction - the institutions that cannot make it will disappear, paving the way for better institutions to take their place. And the British university system, by facing ever-greater financial crisis, will also have to adapt to the new reality, and that will mean closing down departments or even whole universities that can't make the grade.
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Post by mcnoch on Nov 19, 2012 12:56:52 GMT -5
Now the UK students come to Germany were education is free and will stay to fill the free slots in our offices and construction offices.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Nov 19, 2012 16:58:11 GMT -5
Now the UK students come to Germany were education is free and will stay to fill the free slots in our offices and construction offices. I really think the taxpayers of Germany are paying for the 'free' education. How do you feel about educating UK's students with your money?
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Post by mcnoch on Nov 20, 2012 1:13:15 GMT -5
The German taxpayer is paying the free education of students from Germany, Europe and all over the world since about 140 years, with a recent small episode, where they wanted more money from the students. Germany has benefitted from a high level of well-educated people. With the tax-payer based education system we have the possibility to get all talented people to the universities instead of only those who have wealthy parents. The taxpayers benefit also from the effect that well educated people normally earn more money later. So with a higher number of well earning people the burden is easier shared.
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Post by Swampy on Nov 20, 2012 1:48:15 GMT -5
I live in a country with socialized medicine, and I like socialized university education. But the first thing with universities in North America is that the tenure system must be abolished, in favor of a greater meritocracy. The other thing is that universities must focus on teaching, not publishing garbage. This will allow for a better system that serves the public.
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Post by boxcar on Nov 20, 2012 22:49:45 GMT -5
My gripe with the “free” education system is that our left leaning professors in higher education teach from the liberal bible and produce extreme liberal graduates that can’t think for them selves. All they can do is parrot what their teachers have taught them.
When they get out in the real world they still have their rose colored glasses on and can not see reality. If you try to explain something logically, it is heracy to them. Logic is not in their vocabulary nor is reasoning.
And then just who is paying for all this “free” education? Answer: the tax payer, half of which are conservative. This means the conservatives are forced to pay for the indoctrinization these idiots in Liberalism.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 9:06:12 GMT -5
Acting as Devil's Advocate here (because I agree with what you wrote), hasn't it always been this way? Can you remember a time when universities weren't hotbeds of liberalism? I can't. I would venture to guess that were it not for the maturing process when a person gets a job and begins to acquire money, our country would have a HUGE majority of liberals. It's only after one begins to acquire, save and spend money (and age and the resulting wisdom) that one sees the value of conservatism.
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Post by boxcar on Nov 21, 2012 12:18:14 GMT -5
So soon we get old. So late we get smart.
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Post by Sir John on Nov 21, 2012 13:40:55 GMT -5
Denny,
"Can you remember a time when universities weren't hotbeds of liberalism? I can't."
Soon after the 1917 revolution, Lenin understood that the future leaders of any country come from the universities. He put in place a system of 'groups/clubs' in those universities that channeled the students to a socialist bent.
Stalin agreed, and when he came to power he fully supported and expanded the scheme. It has born generous fruit, and we now have socialists in all of the influential and powerful positions in our society around the world.
Even the death of communism has not stopped them from insisting that socialism is the way of the future. That influence will slowly die but not for decades yet. In fact with the current economic situation, governments around the world will be thrown out and replaced witb the oppositions and vice versa.
JMO
SJ
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Nov 21, 2012 16:36:13 GMT -5
My casual observation is that folks tend to value anything based on how much it took them to get it. Therefore - free anything is not valued and is taken for granted. The longer this goes on - the less valuable the 'thing' becomes. This includes education..... Need proof? Look at Secondary education in the US today....teaches nothing and produces idiots.....
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Post by Swampy on Nov 21, 2012 22:05:29 GMT -5
It's the socialist tenure-track system - it creates shortages and doesn't allow for a meritocracy. Of course the profs would be socialist.
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