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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 21, 2012 11:43:48 GMT -5
Employment of new "underwatere satellites" will aid the Navy in detecting the relatively quiet diesel-electric subs which are difficult to detect with old style SONAR.
DARPA’s Distributed Agile Submarine Hunting or DASH program will detect and locate submarines over vast areas in both deep and shallow water.
DASH is a sort of an underwater version of a satellite capable of operating at extreme depths in open ocean. Known as “subullites,” these are being developed for deployment on deep sea enemy sub stake outs.
The underwater satellites will be mobile, quiet and unmanned.
Just like a satellite in the sky, it will have a large field of view- but in this case of the water overhead so that it can scan upwards and from great depths detect the quiet diesel electric subs.Read more: www.foxnews.com/tech/2012/08/09/underwater-satellites-and-autonomous-robots-help-hunt-for-enemy-submarines/#ixzz24CRARm2G
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Post by Swampy on Aug 22, 2012 11:36:12 GMT -5
For naval warfare, subs will be the wave of the future - aircraft carriers have always been vulnerable to subs, which means that, before the CV groups can project force in any future war, the subs have to clear the path.
At Midway, the Yorktown was hit twice by Japanese bombers but didn't sink; then it was torpedoed by one Japanese sub and sank.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2012 13:50:10 GMT -5
I'm not convinced that subs will be the Navy of the future. I don't necessarily disagree with you, I'm just not convinced.
Your statement that the Yorktown was deep sixed at Midway made me look it up because I knew it was still going in the 60s (I did touch and goes off it). I didn't realize that the Navy renamed its' ships but in this case, the Yorktown (second edition) was named after the one that was sunk at the battle of Midway. No wonder I couldn't put two and two together.
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Post by Swampy on Aug 22, 2012 13:59:29 GMT -5
There is a further line of inquiry to say that drones launched from afar will be CV killers, because they can be launched en masse, as opposed to pilot-driven aircraft. So the CV's are facing two potential threats to their dominance.
That said, drones launched in the air won't deal with subs. Eventually, subs will have to deal with subs.
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Post by Sir John on Aug 22, 2012 14:00:31 GMT -5
Denny,
When I was a lad of about 5/6 (1944) my mum took me to see 'The Fighting Lady' it was a WW2 propaganda film and I have never forgotten it. It was the first time I ever saw a depiction of warfare in any form.
The 'star' of the film was CV10, the USS 'Yorktown'.
In 2004 we found our way to the lovely city of Charleston SC, and one of the 'must dos' was a visit to Patriots Point and that very same ship albeit with an angled deck. What a thrill that was.
The 'Yorktown' at Midway was CV4 or CV6 I think,. Mr Google will know, he knows everything.
SJ
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 19:41:24 GMT -5
To the best of my knowledge, we did not have six carriers at the start of the war. We had three at Midway and the Lexington was sank in the Coral Sea.
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Post by Sir John on Aug 23, 2012 19:45:28 GMT -5
You had one in the Atlantic I think. I will have to ask my good friend Mr Google.
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 19:46:23 GMT -5
But then again, Patton had air coverage at West Africa, Casablanca. Where did they come from?
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Post by Swampy on Aug 23, 2012 19:47:44 GMT -5
But then again, Patton had air coverage at West Africa, Casablanca. Where did they come from? According to the movie, from the British. |
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 19:48:00 GMT -5
Dang, you are fast SJ.
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Post by Sir John on Aug 23, 2012 19:50:47 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 20:10:10 GMT -5
Swampy:
As I recall, much of the aircraft that the British used in Africa (tomahawks) were shipped in crates by boat and reassembled on land.
Remember the aircraft used to sink the Bismark were the antiquated bi-winged torpedo aircraft. That could not have been more than two years before the Casablanca invasion. Other than that, I can’t think of any other British aircraft (at that time) that were sea worthy.
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Post by Sir John on Aug 23, 2012 20:20:52 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 20:44:27 GMT -5
I can think of
1)Langley
2)Lexington
3)Wasp
4)Enterprise
5)Yorktown.
6)Hornet?
one seems to be missing then.
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Post by boxcar on Aug 23, 2012 20:59:39 GMT -5
Ok, had to look it up. It was the Saratoga. That one was probably in the Atlantic.
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