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Post by dontom on Aug 21, 2013 3:18:34 GMT -5
"A judge in Tennessee changed a 7-month-old boy's name to Martin from Messiah, saying the religious name was earned by one person and "that one person is Jesus Christ." See here.Are the courts of Tennessee ran on religious nonsense? -Don- Reno, NV
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Post by Sir John on Aug 21, 2013 13:46:09 GMT -5
Yes!
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Post by Swampy on Aug 21, 2013 15:21:11 GMT -5
Aren't there a lot of hispanic men who have Jesus as a middle name? At least, that's my impression.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Aug 21, 2013 15:26:12 GMT -5
Aren't there a lot of hispanic men who have Jesus as a middle name? At least, that's my impression. A lot have Jesus as a first name. (But maybe not in Tennessee)
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 16:28:26 GMT -5
The name "Messiah" is used in many states. Apparently it just struck the judge in TN wrong.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2013 23:56:39 GMT -5
Aren't there a lot of hispanic men who have Jesus as a middle name? At least, that's my impression. No they are Haysus Swampy Reminds me about the foreign tourist asking an LA tourist office staffer for a day trip to San Joesay, the staffer advised the tourist that the J is pronounced as H and then asked when the tourist wanted to take the trip. The reply was Hune or Huly.
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Post by dontom on Aug 22, 2013 4:32:37 GMT -5
Aren't there a lot of hispanic men who have Jesus as a middle name? At least, that's my impression. Spelled that way, but not pronounced the same, so that makes it a different name. -Don- Reno, NV
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Post by Deleted on Aug 22, 2013 12:36:29 GMT -5
Aren't there a lot of hispanic men who have Jesus as a middle name? At least, that's my impression. Spelled that way, but not pronounced the same, so that makes it a different name. -Don- Reno, NV It's only pronounced differently because it's Spanish. It has the same meaning in any language.
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Post by mcnoch on Aug 22, 2013 13:21:38 GMT -5
I would say that the judge was not completely off-line. Messiah was not an ordinary name, but an honor-name, given to kings, high-priests and at least one prophet, indicating that this person is chosen by god. You wouldn't find somebody in Europe or the Middle East with this name. But the USA are a bit more liberal on these naming conventions.
Same with Jesus, except the Spanish-speaking world. The name is more or less blocked and can’t be used, despite the fact that other holy names (Peter, Michael, etc..) are very popular. That the name Jesus is nonetheless often used in the Spanish speaking world has its roots in the time of the Reconquista (hornet32, you see, everything has a military history spin). The Muslims named a lot of their sons after their prophet, Mohammed. To counter this, the name Jesus became popular in the occupied Spain and the Catholic Church not only tolerated but supported this.
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Post by Swampy on Aug 22, 2013 13:46:23 GMT -5
Are there any legal restrictions on the kind of name you can give your child? I understand France has restrictions, but I don't know if any North American jurisdictions have that.
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Post by mcnoch on Aug 22, 2013 13:55:02 GMT -5
Are there any legal restrictions on the kind of name you can give your child? I understand France has restrictions, but I don't know if any North American jurisdictions have that. In the EU you can use only names listed in a public register and which are clearly identified as male or female. This list is extremly long, so no shortage on names. Jesus was blocked by law in Germany until about 10 years ago, but with this new EU name list, Jesus became legal as it is a popular name in Spain.
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