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Post by hornet32 on Sept 3, 2013 10:04:18 GMT -5
Been to Gettysburg a few times never get tired of it , the first time I went was in July won't do that again the place was crawling with tourists most of them didn't have clue , now I go in the off season Sept., Oct. , Nov. , being a military genius in my own right I question Lee's actions during the three days and Longstreet's actions on the second day , its seems that Hill and Ewell weren't of much if any use , the famed Pickett's charge was a gigantic cluster f--k , Lee had figured on a three pronged attack , Ewell on the left Stuart in the rear none of that happen so it became a one pronged attack , insane .
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 3, 2013 10:48:24 GMT -5
Tet - In evaluating the actions of all commanders during the Civil War, it would be prudent to remember that communications between units in those days was by messenger or wigwag. They did not have the convenience of telephone and radio to transmit orders and receive intelligence. It was much more difficult to change battle plans based on the developing situation.
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Post by hornet32 on Sept 3, 2013 11:13:54 GMT -5
Jerry , being a military genius in my own right I have factored everything in , to begin with the Confederate front was much too long , 4 miles , Lee saw that on the first day and considered consolidating but let Ewell sway him , the second day Longstreet was commander on the spot and could have changed the plan from echelon to flank attack as it developed , the Union rear was basically unprotected , the third day the South Simply could afford , Lee should have withdrawn or dug in and let the Union come to him .
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 3, 2013 13:14:37 GMT -5
True - the North's rear was totally unprotected. Too bad the Southern Cavalry got tied up screwing around instead of attacking from the rear. Picket may not have needed to charge...
I doubt the length of the Southern front had much to do with the outcome. If the North had attacked the thin and extended Southern line, maybe it would have made a difference. As it was, the long line was not threatened so it made little difference if it was 4 miles long or 4 feet. They had massed for the turning point with Pickett's charge so the length of the front had little, if any, affect.
And the North should have chased them instead of letting them escape to the south -- 20/20 hindsight is a great and marvelous thing!
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Post by hornet32 on Sept 3, 2013 13:24:24 GMT -5
Meade was unsure of himself during Lees retreat he had only been in command a week but Lee could not cross a swollen Potomac so he built a mighty tough defensive line and gave an open invitation to Meade to attack , Why didn't Lee think about that on the first day only he knows and he's not telling . Lincoln came unhinged when he learned Meade had let Lee get away .
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Post by hornet32 on Sept 3, 2013 18:43:49 GMT -5
Had I had been Lee even after I knew that Union Army was north of the Potomac I would have let Ewell continue on to Harrisburg capture it then work south , Meade had already pretty much made up his mind to defend at Pipe Creek , When Ewell came south he would have been on Meade's flank .
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Post by dontom on Sept 4, 2013 6:26:43 GMT -5
Been to Gettysburg a few times never get tired of it , the first time I went was in July won't do that again the place was crawling with tourists most of them didn't have clue , now I go in the off season Sept., Oct. , Nov. , being a military genius in my own right I question Lee's actions during the three days and Longstreet's actions on the second day , its seems that Hill and Ewell weren't of much if any use , the famed Pickett's charge was a gigantic cluster f--k , Lee had figured on a three pronged attack , Ewell on the left Stuart in the rear none of that happen so it became a one pronged attack , insane . We've made the mistake of taking trips in August a few times. But I am glad you mentioned September and Oct for Gettysburg as I am leaving for there in a couple of days. Driving the RV to Reno home tonight but will stay there for a couple of days B4 leaving for the start of the trip. First going to Montana and visit Mr. Custer. But we will also spend some time in eastern Canada B4 getting to Gettysburg. BTW, when was the last time you were in Gettysburg? Did you meet LTC Jerry, who lives close to there? -Don- SF, CA |
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Post by hornet32 on Sept 4, 2013 7:42:49 GMT -5
Last time to Gettysburg was in '87 didn't know Jerry then but there was this odd looking older fellow carrying a musket and drooling out the side of his mouth , I spoke to him for a minute he said he was a vet from the battle of Gettysburg and his name Jerry , couldn't be .
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 4, 2013 7:51:23 GMT -5
Last time to Gettysburg was in '87 didn't know Jerry then but there was this odd looking older fellow carrying a musket and drooling out the side of his mouth , I spoke to him for a minute he said he was a vet from the battle of Gettysburg and his name Jerry , couldn't be . Couldn't have been me. I didn't start drooling until 2009..... |
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Post by dontom on Sept 4, 2013 7:54:43 GMT -5
I spoke to him for a minute he said he was a vet from the battle of Gettysburg and his name Jerry , couldn't be . Oh, sure it could be. He's about the right age.  -Don- (As you can see, I am working hard here at "work" for my last night in a month) |
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Post by hornet32 on Sept 6, 2013 14:53:21 GMT -5
Benefits received by the civil war vets , the Northern Vet received some compensation for serious injuries loss of limbs , etc. , the Confederate Vet received nothing and a lot of it until 1876 when reconstruction was over and the succeeded states began to pay out pensions and disabilities .
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