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Post by Swampy on Sept 16, 2013 9:41:03 GMT -5
Gallup polling has shown that public acceptance (or lack thereof) of evolution has not changed over the years. The latest one shows that 15% believes in evolution, with God playing no role, while 46% believes in the Creationist version, and 32% believes God guided evolution. As Carl Sagan would say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So, if a greater percentage (46%) believes in Creationism, while only 15% believes in atheist evolution, then the evolutionists have to provide extraordinary proof, which means a complete fossil record. If they do not, then evolution is not proven. |
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 16, 2013 9:52:09 GMT -5
Gallup polling has shown that public acceptance (or lack thereof) of evolution has not changed over the years. The latest one shows that 15% believes in evolution, with God playing no role, while 46% believes in the Creationist version, and 32% believes God guided evolution. As Carl Sagan would say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So, if a greater percentage (46%) believes in Creationism, while only 15% believes in atheist evolution, then the evolutionists have to provide extraordinary proof, which means a complete fossil record. If they do not, then evolution is not proven. Oh, please, there never will be something like a complete fossil record as such traces are rare and fleeting. But if the majority in the USA is believing in god's hand in this, they really must have good, complete and convincing proof of god's existence. Would be good if they could share them, as not even the Roman Catholic Church is believing what the people in the USA are believing. The Roman Catholic Church has accepted the evolution long ago. |
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Post by Sir John on Sept 16, 2013 14:45:35 GMT -5
"The Roman Catholic Church has accepted the evolution long ago."
That at least SOME of the bible (if not all) is Bovine Excreta?
SJ
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 16, 2013 16:02:29 GMT -5
Roman Catholic Church has accepted that most of the non-historical stories of the Bible are mainly used for illustration purposes and shouldn't be taken word by word as true. It is the message, not the word that counts and of course they focus more on the New Testament, not the Old Testament.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 16, 2013 16:11:15 GMT -5
We call that over here, "having an each way bet".
Much like the IPCC, or was that IPGW, recently admitting their doom and gloom was bovine excreta.
SJ
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Post by dontom on Sept 27, 2013 18:23:41 GMT -5
Gallup polling has shown that public acceptance (or lack thereof) of evolution has not changed over the years. The latest one shows that 15% believes in evolution, with God playing no role, while 46% believes in the Creationist version, and 32% believes God guided evolution. As Carl Sagan would say, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof. So, if a greater percentage (46%) believes in Creationism, while only 15% believes in atheist evolution, then the evolutionists have to provide extraordinary proof, which means a complete fossil record. If they do not, then evolution is not proven. The verdict on that one has been in for well over 100 years. Evolution is a well proven scientific fact, as much as is the theory of gravity. Case is very well closed, but some people believe in so much superstitious nonsense that they ignore facts and truth by using faith. Unlike science, faith requires neither facts nor truth. -Don- |
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2013 19:14:43 GMT -5
If someone can come up with a piece of fossilised wood or bone, that is clearly millions of years old, then creationism is a dud!
If a skeleton of a primate is 1 million years old, then creationism is a dud!
You simply do not need a string of bones each generation from 1 million years ago to the present, to disprove creationism.
JMO
SJ
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Post by dontom on Sept 27, 2013 21:02:48 GMT -5
If someone can come up with a piece of fossilised wood or bone, that is clearly millions of years old, then creationism is a dud! If a skeleton of a primate is 1 million years old, then creationism is a dud! You simply do not need a string of bones each generation from 1 million years ago to the present, to disprove creationism. JMO SJ I suppose both could be true. Creationism via evolution. But trying to prove evolution today would be the same as trying to invent the wheel. Evolution is clearly well proven fact as shown by the modern scientific method. Those who debate evolution might as well debate if the earth is flat. And there are religious nuts who still believe the earth is flat. There is no limit to the type of silly nonsense some can believe. Check out the Flat Earth Society.-Don- (in Carlisle, PA) |
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 27, 2013 22:21:18 GMT -5
There is also a "Man Will Never Fly Society". They meet once a year and have a lot of fun.
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Post by Swampy on Sept 28, 2013 0:13:48 GMT -5
There is also a "Man Will Never Fly Society". They meet once a year and have a lot of fun. I never knew such an organization existed - thanks, boss. Are they affiliated with the Flat Earth Society? |
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Post by dontom on Sept 28, 2013 9:39:19 GMT -5
I ain't clear on what their nonsense is all about, even after reading most of it.
What is their main objective, if any?
-Don- (in Carlisle, PA)
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 28, 2013 9:39:56 GMT -5
Don't think there is an official affiliation, but they do share a philosophy....
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Post by dontom on Sept 28, 2013 9:51:10 GMT -5
Don't think there is an official affiliation, but they do share a philosophy.... Perhaps drinking instead of flying? But they say they are not against flying. Their nonsense made no sense to me. But that's the nature of nonsense. I rarely can make sense out of nonsense. -Don- |
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 28, 2013 10:06:47 GMT -5
Don - its a social club which gets together to have fun. No serious intent intended....
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Post by dontom on Sept 28, 2013 20:18:50 GMT -5
Don - its a social club which gets together to have fun. No serious intent intended.... That's what I assumed. That's what I think religion is to a lot of people too. Just nonsense to get people together. But the same can be done with real issues. Nonsense isn't really necessary. This is kind of a social club too. So is the cycle forum I belong too. Tom & I met the president of the cycle club in Gettysburg today. But the military and motorcycles really exist. And least these forums are not built up on only pure nonsense, as so many others are. There is still a little nonsense here, but a little nonsense is tolerable. -No Nonsense Don (in Carlisle, PA) |
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