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Post by Swampy on Sept 16, 2012 21:51:46 GMT -5
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Post by Swampy on Sept 17, 2012 8:44:13 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Sept 17, 2012 9:27:13 GMT -5
In my opinion the Chinese would go for Taiwan first. It is a much bigger gem.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 17, 2012 14:50:38 GMT -5
IMNHO, China cannot hope to take Taiwan by conventional military means.
The task is FAR more difficult than D-Day 1944.
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Sept 18, 2012 0:06:21 GMT -5
IMNHO, China cannot hope to take Taiwan by conventional military means. The task is FAR more difficult than D-Day 1944. SJ Agreed 100%.
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Post by boxcar on Sept 18, 2012 9:04:14 GMT -5
Rather than the D day invasion, think of the Philippine invasion. Here there was a huge distance between embarkation and debarkation.
The Chinese don’t have the ships? Lets say, instead of using a Landing Ship, as we did, they convert one of their huge container ships for ground troop transportation. Those things are around 1000 feet long and have the capacity.
Nothing is fool proof to a dedicated fool.
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Post by Swampy on Sept 18, 2012 9:08:28 GMT -5
And don't forget the lack of air and naval superiority - can you imagine the Germans landing in 1941 in England when the RAF and RN dominated the waters?
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Post by boxcar on Sept 18, 2012 9:30:20 GMT -5
I am not saying it would be easy, but it remains within the realm of possibilities.
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 18, 2012 11:30:59 GMT -5
A trade war is more likely. Both Taiwan and Japan relay heavily on CHina for pre-products of their own export-goods, so this can turn into a very nasty affair even without soliders on foreign beaches.
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Post by Swampy on Sept 18, 2012 15:45:26 GMT -5
And the last thing the world needs with this economy is a trade war.
I'm hoping the Chinese government isn't that stupid.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 18, 2012 16:16:40 GMT -5
Swampy,
Surely they cannot be.
I am amazed at the amount of 'face' they are risking in all this 'brinksmanship' over the islands and trade.
Their claims on the islands are ridiculous from a simple geographic point. And the Rare Earths tactic is another where they are handicapping their international reputation. All they are doing there is generating a surge in rare earth development in Australia and around the world.
As for the islands the 'China bully' will make all her neighbours very wary of her and probably drive them into a de-facto alliance with the West.
China is NOT strong enough (yet) to project military power across the Pacific or the Indian oceans. It will be a decade or three before they can.
SJ
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 19, 2012 9:40:42 GMT -5
The dispute would be of no real interests to any of the governments if there wouldn’t be high-alert nationalistic forces within their societies which are pushing this topic. So all three governments must proof to these audiences their strong resolution to defend "national interests", especially against (former) enemies.
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Post by Swampy on Sept 21, 2012 11:05:54 GMT -5
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 21, 2012 12:50:39 GMT -5
More pictures, Swampy, more pictures....
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Post by Swampy on Sept 21, 2012 16:02:13 GMT -5
Jerry, let google be your friend. But, in this case, I'm not much for spectator sports - I'd rather take an active part.
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