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Post by Swampy on Sept 21, 2012 23:44:43 GMT -5
I told you there's good in every religion.  |
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Post by Sir John on Sept 21, 2012 23:52:43 GMT -5
I am cynical enough to think that this 'revenge' attack was orchestrated by the Libyan government to ingratiate itself with the US Government, no matter who actually did the killings.
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Sept 21, 2012 23:57:14 GMT -5
Then nothing can be proven.
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Post by boxcar on Sept 22, 2012 0:20:54 GMT -5
That sounds about right, Sir John. That would insure they were still on the dole.
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Post by mcnoch on Sept 23, 2012 4:16:35 GMT -5
The public is against all those militia groups that have formed in the past months and the pressure from the public onto the government to get rid of all those militia groups is mounting. The people in Libya don't want to be a second Somalia. Militia groups without the support of the local population are going to die, very often in the exact meaning of the word. But even then, don’t expect a US-loving country, the understanding of how a desirable society should be are quite different in all countries. There is some common ground, but the rest is up for debate.
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Post by griffin on Sept 23, 2012 19:20:34 GMT -5
While I'm normally conservative about what will or won't occur in these emerging nations, one thing should be considered. The Libyans had great respect for the US Ambassador. He was very involved with the local people and respected. It is therefore not a surprise the Libyans took to the streets to first protest his death and then went after the headquarters of the lead extremist group. They don't want extremists from other countries taking charge. I hope the US and other democracies work to build a new Libyan army and promote democracy in Libya.
I think the US has the Libyan people's good will, and hopefully that of their government, and further assistance in rebuilding their military while helping them build up their fledgling government institutions could lead to an important friend in that 'neck of the woods'.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 23, 2012 19:27:56 GMT -5
griffin,
To me, the real wild card in Libya and Egypt and so on is the Muslim Brotherhood.
They have seen the vacancy at the top of the heap, and moved fast and firmly to fill that vacancy.
They are NOT a friend of the infidel.
SJ
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Post by griffin on Sept 27, 2012 16:45:32 GMT -5
I totally agree with the need to watch carefully what the Muslim Brotherhood does in Egypt. Keep in mind they got a very small portion of the Egyptian votes in the last election. If they 'drop the ball' and things don't improve they could be swept away the next time around. As to Libya, it appears that the Libyan government is trying to bring together some cohesion and part of that is disarming various militia groups that don't join the central government's forces. My hope is that we don't make a mistake and the west not support them with advisors in and outside of the military. While I don't expect miracles we enhance the extremists hands if we don't support the Libyan government and as a result the terrorists, etc. take over.
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Post by boxcar on Sept 28, 2012 12:29:39 GMT -5
Griffin, I believe you will find that the Muslim Brotherhood controls the majority of seats in the Libyan government. Their main goal will be Sharia law for the country.
They are also in control Tunisa and Egypt. If they ever take over Syria, look for a Caliphate to be formed.
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