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Post by Swampy on Sept 27, 2012 9:25:59 GMT -5
San Francisco is considered America's best city. I'm surprised to read that it has less than a million people, because it is northern California's financial center, so I was thinking it would have a few million inhabitants. Anyway, I like these smaller cities with cool climate, like my Vancouver, Seattle, and, as I understand it, Perth, Australia. And Vancouver, in international rankings, has beaten SF in recent years as a better place to live. A common problem with both SF and Vancouver is the expensive real estate, which may get more expensive as immigrants flood into both cities. But they will remain good places to live in. That said, I don't believe in rankings, because everyone's tastes are different. I don't like hot places, but lots of people love them, so they can go there, while I'll stay here.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 27, 2012 9:50:40 GMT -5
San Francisco is the absolutely LAST place I'd ever want to live.....
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 14:15:39 GMT -5
San Francisco is the absolutely LAST place I'd ever want to live..... Beautiful city, WEIRD people! Of course the latter can be said for all of CA.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2012 15:36:40 GMT -5
As a 4 time visitor to SF I have observed a strange feature of the city and its surrounds.
If you walk down one of its main 'downtown' streets you will see very UP market areas flush against very DOWN market areas, all in a 1 mile walk.
A lot like NYC in that regard. LA does not rate at all.
As an American said once, "the only true American city is Las Vegas", brash, (over) confident, brassy, and fairy tale. Most other US cities are really not all that much different to Australian or possibly Canadian cities.
Charleston SC is my favourite US city, so far!
SJ
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Post by Deleted on Sept 27, 2012 16:36:41 GMT -5
I'm not much of a city guy, but Charleston is excellent, as are Savannah, GA, Ashville, NC, Austin Tx, Seattle, WA and maybe a couple others that don't come immediately to mind. I prefer smaller towns that have personality and we have those in abundance all over the states. I've found the same to be true in most of the countries I've visited around the world. One of my favorite (not favoUrite!) international cities is Melbourne.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2012 16:49:43 GMT -5
Denny,
Melbourne regularly beats Vancouver in the annual 'Most livable Cities' List.
;-)
(I figured Austin TX would get a mention soon.)
SJ
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 27, 2012 16:50:19 GMT -5
As long as Denny ahs opened this up to international cities, I'll have to cast my vote for Munich. It is not really a city but a collection of small towns grouped in the same gergraphical space. If forced to name my favorite US city, I'd have to say Washington, DC. Other than its high cost of living, it has as much or more to offer than any other US city (of course, anyone with any degree of smarts knows which sections of the city to stay out of). Among my most unfavorite cities are Tehran and Saigon....'nuff said.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2012 16:54:05 GMT -5
Jerry,
Washington has the most magnificent monuments and public spaces and buildings you could ever wish to see, but like many US cities, her suburbia is about as dismal as you can get outside a Mexico City slum.
VERY depressing!
SJ
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Sept 27, 2012 16:57:24 GMT -5
My high school buddy lives in suburban Washington - his house is valued at $2.6 million. Not much of a slum.... But there ARE depressed areas, just not all of DCs suburbs fall into that category.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2012 17:13:35 GMT -5
Yes, probably far too much of a generalisation, and maybe I was unlucky, but that is the impression I got.
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Sept 27, 2012 17:16:29 GMT -5
East coast is too muggy, as is Charleston, NC. I'm a West Coastie, with temperate weather like SF or Vancouver.
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Post by Sir John on Sept 27, 2012 17:50:50 GMT -5
You call 15' of snow "temperate"?
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Sept 27, 2012 18:02:55 GMT -5
I'm a big, beefy, hairy lumberjack.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2012 8:16:31 GMT -5
Jerry,
I agree with you about Munich, but I'm a tad biased. I spent six years in Germany (before the fall of the Wall), two of them stationed at Augsburg, not far from Munich. While it may seem like a collection of hamlets, it is a very modern city in every way, both bad and good. In many ways, it is out of place with the zillion small burgs that are within 50 miles or so but it is very cosmopolitan.
I spent two weeks in Vancouver on vacation and enjoyed it, just not nearly so much as other large cities. I thought it was VERY overpriced, yet very friendly. Washington, like ALL cities anywhere, has its share of slums. However, like Vancouver, SF, NYC and many others, it is very expensive to live there. If you like American history and being in the center of the American political scene, there is no better place to live.
Denny
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Post by Swampy on Sept 28, 2012 8:42:59 GMT -5
I loved my time in Washington, DC.
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