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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Oct 1, 2012 17:18:37 GMT -5
Yet another disclosure of bureaucrats living large on your backs. As if more justification for smaller government were needed
An Obama administration appointee has resigned in connection with another bombshell report detailing the waste of taxpayer money at feel-good conferences -- this time, at a pair of Veterans Affairs summits in Orlando that cost more than $6 million.
John Sepulveda, who as assistant secretary for human resources and administration was the agency's top HR official, resigned just as the VA Office of Inspector General released its 150-page report on the conferences, held on his watch in July and August 2011.
The report said he "abdicated his responsibilities" in overseeing the conferences, leading to "numerous examples of excessive costs, and unnecessary and unsupported expenditures." Read more: www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/10/01/probe-slams-va-over-6m-orlando-conferences-official-resigns/#ixzz285XEKMKs |
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Post by dontom on Oct 2, 2012 5:55:28 GMT -5
this time, at a pair of Veterans Affairs summits in Orlando that cost more than $6 million. Peanuts compared to the money we waste in other countries. Stuff such as trying to force democracy on Iraq, & training them and other ME countries to kill us better later. We pour BIG money into other countries and take nothing out. We're big suckers when it comes to overseas and you wanna complain about $6 million spent in Orlando? That's just peanuts and is money spent here where it should be. -Don- |
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Oct 2, 2012 8:52:30 GMT -5
this time, at a pair of Veterans Affairs summits in Orlando that cost more than $6 million. Peanuts compared to the money we waste in other countries. Stuff such as trying to force democracy on Iraq, & training them and other ME countries to kill us better later. We pour BIG money into other countries and take nothing out. We're big suckers when it comes to overseas and you wanna complain about $6 million spent in Orlando? That's just peanuts and is money spent here where it should be. -Don- Don, did you miss that it was VA money which could have been better spent on treatment of wounded soldiers than on a high priced "summit" for a bunch of highly paid bureaucrats..... |
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Post by dontom on Oct 3, 2012 6:06:16 GMT -5
Don, did you miss that it was VA money which could have been better spent on treatment of wounded soldiers than on a high priced "summit" for a bunch of highly paid bureaucrats..... Yes. But compare that to how much money it cost us to try to force the unwanted democracy on Iraq and how many less wounded soldiers we would have along with more money to patch them up. -Don- |
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Oct 4, 2012 12:19:39 GMT -5
Don, did you miss that it was VA money which could have been better spent on treatment of wounded soldiers than on a high priced "summit" for a bunch of highly paid bureaucrats..... Yes. But compare that to how much money it cost us to try to force the unwanted democracy on Iraq and how many less wounded soldiers we would have along with more money to patch them up. -Don- And to carry that to its ultimate absurdity - If we never had a war we would not need a VA at all.... If everyone had your attitude, there would be no stopping the appointed high roling bureaucrats.... no work, just party... oops... I mean go to conferences at taxpayer expense... What the hell let it all hang out..... Why are you defending their actions??? |
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Post by dontom on Oct 4, 2012 17:49:21 GMT -5
And to carry that to its ultimate absurdity - If we never had a war we would not need a VA at all.... I am a SuperHawk in the wars that are worth fighting and make some sense. Even Iraq 1, before Baby Bush made it into a big mess. Remember how Kuwait was thanking Daddy Bush with their big celebrations? I had no complaints with any of that. There was a big celebration in Iraq too, after we tried to force democracy on them. They celebrated us leaving: www.cbsnews.com/8301-202_162-57344859/iraq-celebrates-u.s-exit-worries-for-future/But even there, I would have no complaints if the very first thing they could vote on was "Should the USA get out of Iraq?" with a clear majority wanting us to stay. All that money wasted just to make them hate us even more. -Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Swampy on Oct 4, 2012 18:52:27 GMT -5
I am a SuperHawk in the wars that are worth fighting and make some sense. Are you a superhawk with respect to the invasion of Afghanistan? |
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Post by dontom on Oct 4, 2012 23:10:45 GMT -5
Are you a superhawk with respect to the invasion of Afghanistan? I am all for getting rid of any group that is helping the terrorists anywhere in anyway. But I might not agree with some of the nonsense about other stuff we do in Afghanistan. I have a coworker who was a "top" Army Sergent in Afghanistan. He tells me about all the BS that goes on over there. IOW, I might not always agree on how we try to accomplish such. I especially give Obama, along with all those who had anything to do with it, a lot of credit for having OBL's head blown off. No nonsense about getting him alive or being afraid of who we piss off. They got the job done and worried about all the BS later. Great job! Don't you agree? Or do you think we should have tried harder to catch him alive and give him a fair trial? I don't. I charge him with no crimes. Just kill him for being an enemy during war (war on terrorism). And they did, with no BS! -Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Swampy on Oct 4, 2012 23:16:17 GMT -5
In terms of the Iraqi's celebrating the US leaving, that was by the CBS, which had the same Walter Cronkite who didn't appreciate the full extent of allied victory in the Tet Offensive - the same CBS which hates the Bush family.
In any case, the US has a duty to make the world safe for democracy, not to be liked by everyone.
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Post by dontom on Oct 4, 2012 23:25:04 GMT -5
In terms of the Iraqi's celebrating the US leaving, that was by the CBS, which had the same Walter Cronkite who didn't appreciate the full extent of allied victory in the Tet Offensive - the same CBS which hates the Bush family. How many other sources would you like and from who? For now, here's another, with a nice big photo of the celebration: www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/12/30/iraq-us-troop-withdrawal-celebrations_n_1176330.htmlIn any case, the US has a duty to make the world safe for democracy, not to be liked by everyone. BS! The US only has a duty to worry about the US. There are borders to countries because they have different beliefs. Often MUCH different from ours. That doesn't mean we get to force our beliefs on them to any more of a degree than they should be able to force their beliefs on us. We all have to learn to respect the differences of other countries. -Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Swampy on Oct 5, 2012 0:22:38 GMT -5
Huffpost is not exactly a neoconservative bastion. As for the role of America in the world, two world wars have shown isolationism doesn't work.
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Post by dontom on Oct 5, 2012 6:43:40 GMT -5
Huffpost is not exactly a neoconservative bastion. Pick your own conservative news source and let's see what they say. Good luck on finding any that say much different! As for the role of America in the world, two world wars have shown isolationism doesn't work. I never said isolationism was a good idea for the USA. Besides, I thought I made it clear that I had no problem with the USA helping our friends in Kuwait. IMO, there would be no policy on such stuff, just do what is most reasonable for the situation at the time. Seems the real problem is nobody is asking me! What I have a BIG problem with is forcing the American way on countries that don't want it. I had no real problem with us getting Saddam Insane out of Iraq. But IMO, it would have been better if we left him in power. What I really had a big problem with is the USA trying to force a phoney type of democracy on Iraq, without letting them FIRST vote on the most important question of all, "Should America leave right now?". Countless millions of dollars wasted just to make more enemies in Iraq. BTW, it was the 4TH Infantry Div. That found Saddam Insane. That was the same division I served with in Vietnam. Surprisingly, somehow, they are still doing well without me.  BTW, do you agree that the Iraqi people should FIRST have been able to vote on if America should leave? And what would YOU expect the Iraqi vote to show there? If the majority of the Iraqi's wanted us to stay, I would have had no problem with it. -Don- Reno, NV |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2012 7:51:47 GMT -5
Amazingly, Don, I agree with all your conclusions (minus the occasional "BS", that is).
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