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Post by griffin on Dec 7, 2012 23:13:18 GMT -5
Canada has decided on its new TAPV (Tactical Armoured Patrol Vehicle) built by Textron and its Canadian partners.
See more details and some interesting video at:
textrontapv.ca
Hard lessons learned in Afghanistan and in the former Yugloslavia showed that even local patrol vehicles needed upgrading in armour protection and firepower.
The other vehicle the army will be getting is the CCV (Close Combat Vehicle) meant to accompany our Leopard ll tanks into battle. I hope they decide on a track and not a wheeled vehicle. Two of the running include the German Puma and the Swedish CV9030 or related vehicles.
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Post by Swampy on Dec 8, 2012 1:14:27 GMT -5
That's very nice, but will it suffer the same fate as the F-35?
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Post by griffin on Dec 8, 2012 21:18:30 GMT -5
Swampy, with the cancellation of the F-35 they will actually be in better shape for this and the new CCV and still get more jets than what we would have gotten with the Lightning II.
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Post by Swampy on Dec 8, 2012 21:37:14 GMT -5
They will cancel the F-35 and buy junk for vehicles. You know that.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2012 23:04:55 GMT -5
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Post by Sir John on Dec 9, 2012 0:01:49 GMT -5
Prem,
Grandson is qualified on both the Bushmaster and the ASLAV (a knockon from the Canadian LAV111), he reckons the Bushmaster is best, but I like the idea of that 25mm chain gun.
...and the idea of only 4 wheels does not appeal to me.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2012 1:43:50 GMT -5
Bushmaster has tyre inflation controlled from cabin SJ, and run flat tyres, it can keep going with flat tyres.
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Post by Swampy on Dec 9, 2012 1:56:50 GMT -5
It might be good in the outback, but would it be good in the tundra? Or Africa? I'm asking because I don't know.
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Post by Sir John on Dec 9, 2012 2:24:43 GMT -5
Prem,
They had a Bushmaster in the sand pit that had its front tyre and suspension blown off, and it all landed 400 yards away.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 4:43:07 GMT -5
SJ in that situation an ASLAV would be disabled.
Fact is Bushmaster has a fantastic life saving record in war zones.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 4:44:13 GMT -5
It might be good in the outback, but would it be good in the tundra? Or Africa? I'm asking because I don't know. Can't answer about Tundra Swampy but Bushmaster is working well in Afghanistan.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 4:51:41 GMT -5
SJ I have a friend who drives a M.A.N. 4WD bus on the sand tracks of Fraser Island, he is a driver and a ranger and selected on his knowledge of the Island and wildlife. Since he was a baby his family have spent leisure time there and he still holds part of a 99 year lease on which a hut is situated for holiday time. He also has a lease on another smaller island in the Great Sandy Straits between Fraser and mainland Australia.
He has explained how, for example, a Toyota Landcruiser 4WD cannot keep up with his 45 passenger bus on the sand tracks. The bus, like Bushmaster, has very large and wide tyres at each corner, 4. The suspension is air bags and passengers hardly feel the bumps as the bus travels at up to 100 kmh/60mph on these rough tracks. A run flat tyre can stand up to maybe half that speed.
Obviously with part suspension blown away it's a different story.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 8:45:22 GMT -5
Hmmm, not sure I understand that although admittedly I don't know the terrain. I DO know that when I take my Jeep either into the desert or up in the mountains, I deflate them to about 15 psi so I don't get stuck in the sand (or at altitude so they don't over inflate) and I still run pretty quickly, should I choose.
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Post by Swampy on Dec 10, 2012 11:54:24 GMT -5
Griffin, give us your thoughts on budget cuts in this thread.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 10, 2012 13:55:56 GMT -5
Hmmm, not sure I understand that although admittedly I don't know the terrain. I DO know that when I take my Jeep either into the desert or up in the mountains, I deflate them to about 15 psi so I don't get stuck in the sand (or at altitude so they don't over inflate) and I still run pretty quickly, should I choose. Of course tyre pressure should be lowered to drive on sand Denny. The buses have a very long wheelbase, pneumatic suspension, high ground clearance and straight groove balloon tyres and can travel quickly over the rough sand tracks that are often corrugated from water running off, and they have tree and shrub roots exposed in many places. Therefore the buses have an advantage over smaller 4WDs.
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