New Canadian Military Patrol Vehicle

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They may have advantages (none that I can think of that interest me) but they sure as hell can't go where I need to go. Of course, that;s why I bought a Jeep.

[griffin]

Lessons learned in Afghanistan regarding LAVIII:

Needed improvements in armour protection against IED's, RPG's, etc.

25mm gun had difficulties with jams; no doubt compounded by dirt that got into everything.

25mm gun was insufficient when it comes to thick walls. It was one of the reasons the infantry asked we deploy our tanks with their main guns.

The LAV's were designed to be 'taxi's to the frontlines' and not as they were used as an IFV (Infantry Fighting Vehicle). This goes back to the faulty decision by the prior government who only planned on 'peacekeeping' duties, even though our personnel had been in active combat in the former Yugoslavia.

LAV's got stuck where tracks would be able to keep up with our MBT's.

This should not be misinterpreted as being a negative commentary on the LAVIII's, which are good for what they were intended to be deployed as; rather they were the only light armour we had going into Afghanistan, (we still have some APC's that have been refurbished multiple times and not used as frontline vehicles). Afghanistan was a deadly 'proving ground' in that the LAV and other lightly protected vehicles, including those used by our allies, were used in a combat environment that needed vehicles with better protection and fire power that could stay with our tanks and move over ground that is not suitable for wheeled vehicles.

One of the tracked vehicles being looked at uses rubber in the tracks thereby reducing weight and reducing noise. Concerns are being registered because the initial specs put out for the CCV did not specify tracked vehicles. I hope that false economies in price, etc. don't interfere with the selection of a good tracked IFV. One of the lessons learned can be seen in the firepower offering on a number of potential vehicles that use 30 or 40 mm guns, with heighted protection. The vehicle's spec's require that a section of soldiers be able to be transported by the CCV, not including its crew.