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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2013 17:12:57 GMT -5
Republicans, led by the Sandy area politicians, including especially Gov Christie, blasted House GOP members ESPECIALLY John Boehner for not taking up the relief bill for those hurt by Hurricane Sandy before they adjourned for the day. The House intends to vote on a $9B aid package tomorrow and then another $51B package "later" but that hasn't stopped the blasting. This is the worst series of attacks I've seen by members of Congress against others in the same party in as long as I can remember. Between this and the GoP response to the fiscal cliff, I'd have to say that they need to do something - quick - to restore credibility with the American public. The way it is now, they look like real asses to the common man.
Don't you just love it when a cat fight breaks out???
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Post by boxcar on Jan 2, 2013 21:41:02 GMT -5
>Between this and the GoP response to the fiscal cliff, <
Lets look at the Dem’s fiscal cliff response:
(CNSNews.com) - Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner said Friday that Congress should stop placing legal limits on the amount of money the government can borrow and effectively lift the debt limit to infinity.
But Democrats told the web site that the GOP should not expect anything in return for agreeing to an increase in the debt. “Do you really think we would come up with a $4 trillion grand bargain and then try to find another $1 trillion in cuts to offset a debt ceiling increase? I don’t think so,” one unidentified Senate aid said.
The Washington Post's editorial board is urging Congressional Democrats to get serious and calling on President Obama to fill the leadership vacuum, essentially echoing what the GOP has been saying for years:
(Reuters) - The Obama administration's opening bid on Thursday in negotiations to avert a year-end fiscal crunch included a demand for new stimulus spending and authority to unilaterally raise the U.S. borrowing ceiling, a Republican congressional aide said.
Guy Benson:
I've been critical of Republican tactics and messaging this week, so let's give credit where it's due: Moments ago, Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell took to the floor and offered an immediate vote on President Obama's fiscal cliff plan, which shocked the Beltway late last week. (In case you're keeping score at home, this was the surreal proposal that induced McConnell to laugh out loud as it was outlined by Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner). Harry Reid quickly objected and shut the whole thing down, labeling the suggestion a "stunt." Think about that. The President of the United States, a Democrat, crafted a fiscal cliff package that would give him everything he wants. It has tax hikes on the rich. It has huge tax hikes on investments and estates. It has more stimulus spending. It has no meaningful, specific, or guaranteed spending cuts. And it compels Congress to cede control of the debt ceiling to him. This is "fairness" on steroids. The Senate's top Republican proposed an up-or-down vote on everything the president wants, yet Democrats, who control the upper chamber, instantly blocked it. By what definition is it a "stunt" to hold a vote on the president's full, public plan? The White House has insisted it's a serious document, yet Hill Democrats don't want it to see the light of day.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 9:19:07 GMT -5
Cmon, JR, none of that had anything to do with the Sandy situation.
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Post by boxcar on Jan 3, 2013 11:44:57 GMT -5
Correct. What was presented was the day to day picture of the Democratic actions.
As for Sandy, the gripe seems to be if they get their money today or tomorrow. The end of the year hot spot is the fiscal cliff which involves trillions, not the east coast cleanup which involves billions.
Bottom line, Christy just wet his pants.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 14:16:07 GMT -5
He certainly wasn't along as virtually all the House, Senate and Govs of the area are up in ranks.
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Post by boxcar on Jan 3, 2013 17:23:01 GMT -5
First things first, Denny. We have a long list of things to do. We have to establish priorities with the agenda. Christy’s demands are small potatoes compared to the fiscal budget and spending nation wide.
Christy might cut a wide path on the East coast, but it is of little consequence West of the Mississippi. May his pants dry out over time.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2013 19:11:17 GMT -5
While I agree with what you say 100%, you still miss the point. The point was that the GoP attacked the GoP. It was loud, nasty and accusatory. I don't remember ever seeing anything like this, on either side of the aisle.
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Post by boxcar on Jan 3, 2013 22:28:56 GMT -5
Yes, I’ve been watching the Rep/Rep squabbling for some time. Most of it has been until now the elite against the Tea Partiers. This one on the East coast seems to be a bit different. I’d say it had to do with some politicians wanting to bring home the bacon and get recognized for it.
The total amount of the funds that will be made available has already been declared. It seems that some politicians just can’t wait a week or so to get their hands on the money (or appear to be in the position to distribute it, more likely).
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Post by Swampy on Jan 3, 2013 23:04:19 GMT -5
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Post by boxcar on Jan 3, 2013 23:34:35 GMT -5
House Speaker John Boehner has been blasted by a slew of local elected officials for delaying the vote on the Hurricane Sandy federal aid package, but at least one politician in New York City appreciates the way he handled the situation. Yesterday, all but two of the sitting City Council members joined Council Speaker Christine Quinn in sending a letter to Mr. Boehner calling his decision to delay the vote “heartless and unfair.” However, Councilman Dan Halloran did not sign on and instead sent a letter of his own to Mr. Boehner and Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid in which his appreciation that the House delayed the Sandy package that was approved by the Senate because it contained too much unrelated pork and his desire for Congress to pass a more “responsible” bill than the one currently on the table.
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Post by boxcar on Jan 4, 2013 12:03:15 GMT -5
Another item…Christy seems to think he has been abused by his fellow Republicans and threatens to join the Democrats, where “he would feel more at home”. And to think a year ago we were looking at this tub of lard to run as president.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2013 13:44:15 GMT -5
Another item…Christy seems to think he has been abused by his fellow Republicans and threatens to join the Democrats, where “he would feel more at home”. And to think a year ago we were looking at this tub of lard to run as president. I haven't seen anything about this and frankly would find it hard to believe. However, stranger things have happened. While I like his no nonsense way of doing business, he is death walking unless he manages to lose at least 200 lbs. Besides, if he went to the Democrat side of the aisle, he would be run over by the VERY popluar mayor of Newark in NJ politics.
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Post by boxcar on Jan 12, 2013 14:28:17 GMT -5
Remember we were talking about excess pork in the Sandy Bill. Here is an example of what was in it.
“The federal government must act immediately to pass a bill that will address these storm related costs without creating a slush fund of pet projects around the country and around the world.”
In his letter, Mr. Halloran listed some of the elements of the Sandy aid bill that was approved by the Senate that he finds unnecessary.
“The United States Senate passed a bill that would have provided some of the much needed money, but it also provided funds for overseas embassies, new federal vehicles, last year’s tsunami in Japan, improvements to the Kennedy Space Center and fisheries in places as far from the east coast as Alaska,” explained Mr. Halloran.
It has been estimated that without the pork, the Sandy bill could be cut back from 50B to 17B. Quite a savings in there.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Jan 12, 2013 14:41:20 GMT -5
That's why increasing taxes on 'the rich' was necessary.....
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