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Post by Swampy on Feb 12, 2013 10:47:06 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Feb 12, 2013 11:07:39 GMT -5
When I was in, and you can check with Don about this, ANYONE who admitted they were queer (the word "gay" had not been invented then) were not only shown the doo rbut were also subject to mental and physical harrassment at the hands of their fellow soldiers. While this may have changed, my guess is that in the "elite" fighting units this will continue to be a problem is gays come out to their fellow troops.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Feb 12, 2013 11:16:32 GMT -5
But I doubt we will ever hear about any probems, Denny. Not PC to admit problems with social engineering programs....
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Post by dontom on Feb 14, 2013 0:41:07 GMT -5
But I doubt we will ever hear about any probems, Denny. Not PC to admit problems with social engineering programs....
"I said there will be problems, but so far, there are none. Since this is not possible, because I cannot be wrong, it has to be that we're just not hearing about the many problems it caused to get rid of DADT."
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Post by dontom on Feb 14, 2013 0:52:04 GMT -5
When I was in, and you can check with Don about this, ANYONE who admitted they were queer (the word "gay" had not been invented then) were not only shown the doo rbut were also subject to mental and physical harrassment at the hands of their fellow soldiers. While this may have changed, my guess is that in the "elite" fighting units this will continue to be a problem is gays come out to their fellow troops.  It was the minority that had a problem with queers, IMO. These days, that minority has gone way, way down, mainly because of all the queers being open about it.
Harvey Milk (RIP) was my hero, because he was saying gays should start bragging about being gay during those days when it was difficult, him being one of the first and ended up being elected as SF Supervisor as the first openly gay man in politics. He said gays won't get anywhere if they all stay in the closet. And boy, was he right!
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Post by dontom on Feb 14, 2013 1:20:30 GMT -5
Unlike there in Canada, there are NO real legal same-sex marriages in the USA. Not even one, inside or outside of the military. Just read our DOMA.
I assume if a gay couple wants a quick easy divorce from Canada (or Mexico), all they have to do is move to the USA.
The USA is way behind most free countries on this issue. We're now surrounded by countries that allow full same sex marriage.
While Mexico only does same-sex marriages in Mexico City (for now), they are legal ANYWHERE in Mexico, so all it takes is a trip to Mexico City.
Gays get harassed here by our federal government. Look into how gay couples who are "married" by the state, or are RDP as Tom & I are MUST do their taxes (it's tax time here). A spokesperson for the IRS says it's "ridiculously complex and expensive". Most who work at the IRS doesn't even understand it. Most that are done 100% correct are rejected for that reason.
First, Tom and I (two people) must do THREE federal returns (and that's the easy part).
The problem is because of CA saying we are married and the federals saying we are NOT married. Pure harassment. OTOH, we pay the same CA state tax as would a married couple, but pay much more to the feds than would a married couple.
If they tried to do this nonsense to married heterosexual couples, I would just love to see what would happen. I wish they would! Like I said before, there is more than one way to be treated equal in this so-called free country.
-Don- Reno, NV
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2013 22:24:32 GMT -5
Same sex marraige doesn't fit the definition of marraige , doesn't really have a definition , dontom pay higher taxes but thats the price of doing business , all they need to do is get a suragate wife problem solved .
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Post by dontom on Feb 15, 2013 0:06:51 GMT -5
Same sex marraige doesn't fit the definition of marraige , doesn't really have a definition , dontom pay higher taxes but thats the price of doing business , all they need to do is get a suragate wife problem solved .
And the legal definition of marriage is whatever the current law says it is.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 15, 2013 11:24:14 GMT -5
dontom as you know the current law says no to gay unions .
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Post by dontom on Feb 16, 2013 6:31:41 GMT -5
dontom as you know the current law says no to gay unions .
BTW, I missed your nonsense! I am glad you're here!
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It was the minority that had a problem with queers, IMO. These days, that minority has gone way, way down, mainly because of all the queers being open about it.