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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 19:25:10 GMT -5
How did one torpedo sink a ship the size of the Lusitania in 20 min. , how much munitions did the Empire load onto that ship , why weren't the passengers notified they were boarding a floating bomb .
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Post by Sir John on Feb 21, 2013 20:15:52 GMT -5
Maybe it struck an iceberg?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 20:28:44 GMT -5
It went boom .
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Post by Swampy on Feb 21, 2013 20:50:59 GMT -5
The Lusitania was carrying munitions, but the US was looking for an excuse to get into the war anyway, to ensure Germany didn't conquer the continent.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 21:24:22 GMT -5
Lusitania went down in 1915 U.S. didn't enter the war until 1917 , Wilson had a hard time getting the votes then , the rest is history .
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Post by Swampy on Feb 21, 2013 21:31:52 GMT -5
Lusitania went down in 1915 U.S. didn't enter the war until 1917 , Wilson had a hard time getting the votes then , the rest is history . Agreed, but the theory remains that the British were trying to get the US to come to the war, and provoking the Germans to sinking a civilian cruiser was one way.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 21:38:57 GMT -5
We spent 8 hard years getting rid of the Empire , but they didn't go far enough away , WWI WWII Cold War , now we got Harry dancing around wearing nothing but a lamp shade on doing coke , when Liz goes so goes the Empire .
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Post by Swampy on Feb 21, 2013 21:42:52 GMT -5
What has that got to do with the Lusitania?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2013 22:05:45 GMT -5
Who knows .
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Post by Sir John on Feb 21, 2013 23:26:46 GMT -5
I remember a doco on this question way back in the olden days.
They sent divers etc down and could find no hull damage consistent with an explosion inside the hull.
Just another conspiracy theory perhaps.
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Post by boxcar on Feb 22, 2013 2:02:55 GMT -5
provoking the Germans to sinking a civilian cruiser was one way.
I have never heard of a civilian criuser. Mostly they are military with guns up the A---.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 3:10:46 GMT -5
Suitable fairy tale?
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 13:55:19 GMT -5
Civilian Crusier spliting hairs , I'm sure if the Empire could have fitted the Lusitania with 11" guns and got away with it they would have done so , fact is the the German sub Capt. wrote in his log that the Ship went down in 20 min. with one torpedo , the doc dive was on the Britanic if memory serves .
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Post by Sir John on Feb 22, 2013 14:56:19 GMT -5
Actually, the British came up with the idea of an AMC - Armed Merchant Cruiser.
An ordinary freighter with guns and other weapons attached. The 'Lusitania' was not one of them, though in WW2 the RMS 'Queen Mary' was equipped with lots of 40mm 'Bofors' etc.
SJ
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Post by mcnoch on Feb 22, 2013 15:34:42 GMT -5
It is belived any in line with the observations made by Bob Ballard's expedition to the Lusitania in 1993 that the torpedo hit one of the nearly empty coal-bunkers and that the really ship-killer was not the 18 m² hole from the torpedo, but the big explosion of coal-dust. It never was fully confirmed that there were illegal ammunition onboard, but it was known that the British used - in clear violation of the rules of war - these civilian ships to smuggle war-goods thru the blockade.
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