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Post by Sir John on Apr 5, 2013 15:28:58 GMT -5
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Apr 5, 2013 15:52:36 GMT -5
Yeah I remember her. Didn't like her when she was young and had a great body - NO reason to like her now...
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2013 18:08:48 GMT -5
Let me put this as nicely as I can... SHE'S A FU.K..G TRAITOR!
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Post by Swampy on Apr 5, 2013 19:48:34 GMT -5
If she wants to make up with the vets, she should do the following:
1) Admit the Vietnam War was justified, as a war against an evil regime;
2) Admit the Communists were evil, and she was wrong to support them;
3) Apologize for being against the VN War;
4) Give half her fortune to support vets.
Then, and only then, can she begin to make amends for her wrongdoing.
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Post by Sir John on Apr 5, 2013 19:56:38 GMT -5
YEP!
Though I doubt they will accept it, once a traitor, ALWAYS a traitor.
SJ
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 8:17:50 GMT -5
YEP! Though I doubt they will accept it, once a traitor, ALWAYS a traitor. SJ You got it! |
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Post by Swampy on Apr 6, 2013 8:52:48 GMT -5
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Post by mcnoch on Apr 6, 2013 12:19:41 GMT -5
Honestly I never understood why they still make such a tamtam about this stupid action.
What treason has she committed? Was she telling the VC/NKA military or political secrets of the USA?
Was it treason that she was against the war? Millions did that, most at home and not in the enemies land, agreed. I think the freedom to disagree with the government doesn’t stop if war breaks out. At least that is what is hammered into us Germans by the Allies since the end of WWII.
Was it treason that she was not supporting the US soldiers in the field? Same as above.
If you compare it against what happened to those people that traveled to Iraq to serve as "living shields" to stop the war and gave endless TV interviews, where is the difference? If you compare her against those US and UK citizens who were fighting in the German Military during WWII and killed Allied soldiers. What happened to them? They were send home without any trail because they were "delusional". I think the reaction to Jane Fonda’s naïve action are pure emotions and not justified in the bigger context.
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Post by Sir John on Apr 6, 2013 13:03:59 GMT -5
You mean like William Joyce?
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Post by mcnoch on Apr 6, 2013 14:18:41 GMT -5
No, but some 800 other members of Oswald Mosleys British Union of Fascists had joined since 1936/37 the German ranks and were fighting as soldiers, bomber pilots and in the intellgience service (mainly of the navy) together with 460 US citizens. They were collected after the war in a central camp in Augsburg until the Control Commission for Germany/British Element and the Office of Military Government for Germany decided in October 1945 to send them home.
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Post by dontom on Apr 6, 2013 14:40:54 GMT -5
If she wants to make up with the vets, she should do the following: 1) Admit the Vietnam War was justified,
"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."
--Gilbert K. Chesterton
"My country right or wrong; when right, to keep her right; when wrong, to put her right."
--Carl Schurz
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Apr 6, 2013 15:43:13 GMT -5
Mathias - the phrase is "giving aid and comfort to the enemy". Which she did, without question. Tokyo Rose never gave military secrets to the enemy either, but was easily considered a traitor.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Apr 6, 2013 15:46:46 GMT -5
If she wants to make up with the vets, she should do the following: 1) Admit the Vietnam War was justified,
"My country, right or wrong," is a thing that no patriot would think of saying except a desperate case. It is like saying, "My mother, drunk or sober."
--Gilbert K. Chesterton
"My country right or wrong; when right, to keep her right; when wrong, to put her right."
--Carl Schurz
-Don Quoteman- Reno, NV [/size][/quote] I ain't getting sucked into that argument again. We started it about 5-8 years ago and you still won't accept any assessment but your own (which was formed while walking backwards through much of RVN) |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 6, 2013 18:15:28 GMT -5
Jane Fondas trip to Hanoi was asinine , but she was a child in a adults world , why she was allowed to re-enter the land of the free comes under the same heading as draft dodgers being granted ammnesty we the people wanted to forgive and be nice .
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Post by dontom on Apr 6, 2013 20:33:45 GMT -5
I ain't getting sucked into that argument again. We started it about 5-8 years ago and you still won't accept any assessment but your own (which was formed while walking backwards through much of RVN) 
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