|
Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Jul 8, 2013 9:05:52 GMT -5
We really need to wait for the full NTSB report but as of now it would appear that the Voice Cockpit Recorder indicated the 'stick shaker' was activated (indicating a nearing stall condition) and the approach speed was much too slow. The fact that the ILS, PAPI and DMI were inoperative should have had no bearing on the accident as the pilot was making a visual approach on a day that the weather was reported as 'severe clear' with minimal winds. This will probably be listed as "pilot error" unless further investigation concludes that some mechanical malfunction was responsible for diverting the pilot's attention and he allowed the airspeed to deteriorate.....
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 10:23:22 GMT -5
As a non-pilot, that's sure what it sounds like.
|
|
|
Post by Sir John on Jul 8, 2013 14:28:20 GMT -5
How many other arrivals did they have that day?
|
|
|
Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Jul 8, 2013 15:38:29 GMT -5
How many other arrivals did they have that day? Flight Aware lists 300 scheduled arrivals + or - a couple (i didn't count them individually ) Undoubtedly a few were diverted after the crash since it took one runway out of service for a considerable time. flightaware.com/273 scheduled arrivals for today.....
|
|
|
Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Jul 8, 2013 15:45:16 GMT -5
Here's another one - no further details at this time: SOLDOTNA, Alaska – An air taxi crashed Sunday at a small Alaska airport, killing all 10 people on board and leaving the aircraft fully engulfed in flames before firefighters could get to it, authorities said. The de Havilland DHC3 Otter air taxi crashed just after 11 a.m. at the airport in Soldotna, a community about 75 miles southwest of Anchorage and located on the Kenai Peninsula. Read more: www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/08/plane-crashes-at-alaska-airport-killing-all-aboard-police-say/#ixzz2YUNTbf1p
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 16:10:18 GMT -5
The people that know don't know the people that don't know know , apparently there were 4 pilots aboard one of them in training , one of the two killed was run over by an ambulance .
|
|
|
Post by Swampy on Jul 8, 2013 16:30:30 GMT -5
Here's another one - no further details at this time: SOLDOTNA, Alaska – An air taxi crashed Sunday at a small Alaska airport, killing all 10 people on board and leaving the aircraft fully engulfed in flames before firefighters could get to it, authorities said. The de Havilland DHC3 Otter air taxi crashed just after 11 a.m. at the airport in Soldotna, a community about 75 miles southwest of Anchorage and located on the Kenai Peninsula. Read more: www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/08/plane-crashes-at-alaska-airport-killing-all-aboard-police-say/#ixzz2YUNTbf1pThat's three in a week.
|
|
|
Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Jul 8, 2013 16:32:58 GMT -5
The people that know don't know the people that don't know know , apparently there were 4 pilots aboard one of them in training , one of the two killed was run over by an ambulance . Pretty normal to have four or more pilots on a flight that long. The crews work in shifts as no one can sit there that long and still be "on top of their game". Has it been confirmed that one of the girls was hit by an emergency vehicle? The last i heard was that it was suspected but awaiting confirmation following an autopsy....
|
|
|
Post by Sir John on Jul 8, 2013 16:37:31 GMT -5
So near 300 pilots managed to get the plane down safely without messing it up.
Most modern planes can land themselves anyway.. and i doubt a second officer? with only 43 hours would or should be at the controls for a landing.
JMO
SJ
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 17:00:16 GMT -5
So far as been determined nothing has been determined and the talking heads read whatever is put in front of them , one of the pilots had 43 hours at the controls of a 777 otherwise thousands of hours flying jets , the nabobs who flew jets into the worlds trade center had 45 min flying experience , so you don't have be a rocket scientist to fly one .
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 18:10:30 GMT -5
The news tonight still haven't confirmed that the death of one of the 16 yo was due to being killed by an emergency vehicle.
While the pilot only had 43 hours on a 777, he had thousands of hours on other big planes. Additionally, apparently, he was being trained by the co-pilot who was very experienced on this plane.
|
|
|
Post by Sir John on Jul 8, 2013 18:39:24 GMT -5
I always thought that Captains trained Second Officers, not the other way round?
SJ
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 18:56:14 GMT -5
A pilot or Captain will do a check ride with the other Captain to see how he handles the plane there are always TWO sets of HANDS on the controls during takeoffs and landings , so what's the theory on what happen just ask your preferred talking head .
|
|
|
Post by Sir John on Jul 8, 2013 19:03:23 GMT -5
The Flight Daa Recorder gave the warnings, and they stilll flew into the ground.
Two sets of hands is not enough?
|
|
Deleted
Deleted Member
Posts: 0
|
Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2013 19:54:28 GMT -5
Landed on the ground , there's a difference you know , but of course nothing man made is infallible , for only two to die and for the rest walk away a good landing all in all .
|
|