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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Nov 19, 2012 9:56:31 GMT -5
Since this is a MILITARY forum and we are discussing healthcare, I will address a question to Jerry, the only other retired military person I know of on this forum. Jerry, How will Obamacare affect you and me, if at all? As long as we have both Medicare and TFL - and who knows how long that will last - we should be unaffected, shouldn't we? I still have a healthy (no pun intended) health annuity provided by my civilian employer, but if I were to rely totally on that, one good size surgery would wipe it out. Denny Well, Denny, I originally thought "No big problem for me - We have fought the TFL fight and won - They wouldn't consider changing it on us now" Then, I was talking with my Lung Doctor at my last visit and discovered that Obamacare will affect me EVEN IF they don't change TFL (which our congress could do in a moment if funds got tight and dollars were needed to support illegal alian healthcare or education). How will it affect me (and maybe you) if TFL goes unchanged? My doc disclosed that he will be forced to close his practice! He simply can not afford to comply with the regulations imposed by Obamacare and remain financially viable. I will have insurance but no doctor. (And he says he's not the only one. My stepdaughter's doc has announced that he will be retiring early. That's two in my limited circle of acquaintences) Beware of unintended consequences...... be verrrrry aware.....
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 12:28:27 GMT -5
I, too, have heard of doctors who say they will cease practicing medicine because of this. My belief, however, is that there will always be someone to plug in the hole. For now, I'm not worried about this. Besides, if nothing else, you and I will always have military doctors and the VA. Not great choices, but better than many have right now.
Danyiel - When was the last time you asked a doctor to see their grades? Your party lost. Instead of bitching about everything, why don't you come up with some ideas that could help the country as a whole, regardless of party and then present them to your congressperson? Bitching is fine for the forum; we're good at it. However, bitching and doing nothing serves no purpose.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Nov 19, 2012 16:55:31 GMT -5
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Post by Deleted on Nov 19, 2012 16:59:09 GMT -5
You, me, Roth, and JR can get away with it because we're old farts. I suspect everyone else needs to fall in line.
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Post by Daniyel on Nov 19, 2012 22:29:19 GMT -5
Hi Denny,
To answer your question..about 6 months ago. I went to the hospital and a Dr I didn't know came in my room wanting to exam me so I most certainly asked him where he went to school and how he ranked in his classes!!! People have a legal right in the USA to know these things. If my party had a candidate running I was not aware of it! Who was running under the Libertarian banner?Obama winning was a lost for us alll!!!!!!
What have you come up with to present to your congressman? I have all my states political folk e-mail addys and write them when ever the notion stricks me! I take pride in knowing MY fellow statesmen did not swaller obomba's load of crap, he lost my state. I speak to every political figure that steps foot in my path, I don't care what party they are or who's district they represent they GET an ear full from me about this nation turning into a FREE LOADERS pardise! I speak to fellow work mates all the time and discourage them against socialist traps! WHAT do you do?.., just try bossing people on the net??? Boy did you pick the wrong bitch today OLD BOY!
Fall in line my ass..pffff I think your little frilly pink slip is showing you cranky o buzzard!! I have just as much right to speak my piece at this board or any where else on the face of this earth as you! Get over yourself!
BTY why don't you want to go to VA Drs? Could it be because they are government flunkys that scored low on their test! Well thank you obama for making a way for even more government DRs that no one in their right mind would want doctoring them!Every time the government sticks its nose into an area it DOES NOT belong we pay dearly for their intrusion, this health care shit will be no different!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 9:06:28 GMT -5
When you learn to respond without attacking, I'll be glad to argue with you.
Swamy and Jerry,
Would you remind our new member that her methods of commenting on things aren't welcome on this forum and that if she can't change them that she should find another forum where her vulgarity is welcome. I don't appreciate her language or her manner of attacking another forum member. If she can't/won't change, she should be banned from the forum. If she can tone it down and present her positions/feelings in a reasonable manner, I at least would accept it. Being insulted is not the way this forum should be conducted.
I expressed my feelings openly rather than going directly to the two of you because I wanted her to know that I find her methods offensive and didn't want to go behind her back.
Denny
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Post by Swampy on Nov 20, 2012 11:01:23 GMT -5
Why don't we just agree to disagree?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2012 11:32:32 GMT -5
There is disagreement and then there is just plain rudeness and crudeness. God knows I've never been accused of being a prude, but there is a time and a place for everything and this is neither the time nor the place for the crap she has been putting out. I have no problem with others disagreeing with me, only in the manner and style in which they do so.
Do your job!
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Post by mcnoch on Nov 20, 2012 12:46:30 GMT -5
I agree with you, Denny.
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Post by Sir John on Nov 20, 2012 13:04:59 GMT -5
Daniyel,
I feel your message to Denny was unwarranted and based on a misunderstanding of what he was saying. Members here are generally of a like mind on most subjects, except perhaps politics, but that is OK and makes for good and stimulating debate.
I know that the various left wing members on the Australian board got your back up, and they copped a spray well deserved, but members here are much more sedate and non aggressive.
I hope you stay with us on that basis as i have always enjoyed chatting with you here and elsewhere.
SJ/OC
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