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Post by Sir John on Mar 4, 2013 0:14:58 GMT -5
It was all part of that "Great Game" of the cold war.
If the obvious take over bid by the North of the South had gone unchallenged, then the good guys (and the bad guys) would have known the champion of the West was not a champion at all.
The 'Domino Theory' was finally proven when Cambodia, Laos, and St Vietnam all ended up communist. Burma was about the same, totalitarian.
The communists had already tried it is Malaya, but Britain and Australia stopped them. Indonesia was saved too.
Now Australia is in the claws of the Communists, but they will die in September.
SJ
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Post by Swampy on Mar 4, 2013 0:20:14 GMT -5
Don,
The US was not anti-Vietnamese; it was trying to protect those in the South from genocide and concentration camps, as history showed would happen if and when the North took over.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 10:16:07 GMT -5
N.Vietnam lost a million people out of a population of appx. 17 million maybe a forth were actual combattons the rest colateral damage this is a good indication that the Americans did not like the Vietnamses and in my opinion the Americans didn't like the S.Vietnamese much better , I myself dispised all Vietnamses and would just as well shoot one as the other , America deaths are a big part of the dislike , many Americans lost their lives simply because the S.Vietnamese Army could not be counted on .
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Mar 4, 2013 10:59:53 GMT -5
For starters, they killed a couple of my friends......
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 11:50:56 GMT -5
Being in helicopters we flew a lot kia's out of LIMA ZULUS ( LZ's ) , I never could get over the thought that I knew what the Fathers , mothers, wives , girl friends , families did not yet know until Graves Registrations notified them their man was dead .
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Post by dontom on Mar 4, 2013 18:52:30 GMT -5
For starters, they killed a couple of my friends...... What would you do if somebody came into your home who was uninvited and unwanted?
-Don- SSF, CA[/size]
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Post by dontom on Mar 4, 2013 19:02:42 GMT -5
Don, The US was not anti-Vietnamese; it was trying to protect those in the South from genocide and concentration camps, as history showed would happen if and when the North took over. Do you think that would have happened if the all-Vietnam vote of 1958 happened, as it was supposed to? Remember, Vietnam was one country, only temporally divided until the vote of 1958 which we made sure never happened. We would rather kill them than let them vote.
What do you have against democracy?
-Don- SSF, CA
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Post by Sir John on Mar 4, 2013 19:12:31 GMT -5
The problem was that Sth Vietnam was much smaller in population to the North.
The result was a foregone conclusion. The South would have been swamped.
SJ
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Post by boxcar on Mar 4, 2013 19:22:58 GMT -5
D>What do you have against democracy?<
That is a bit naive. Last year our State Department called the mobs of North Africa freedom fighters who only wanted democracy. Look what we got in Libya and Egypt. You will find the same situation in Syria.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 19:34:09 GMT -5
The French seem to be doing good work in Mali , the French have always been indesciminate in who they kill and it works , peace comes just to get the French out of there .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2013 19:35:23 GMT -5
Problems began when the CIA decided Diem had to go .
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Post by dontom on Mar 4, 2013 20:15:36 GMT -5
Problems began when the CIA decided Diem had to go . No, the problem started when we got involved in a civil war in another country that we had no legitimate business being involved in.
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Mar 5, 2013 9:50:58 GMT -5
For starters, they killed a couple of my friends...... What would you do if somebody came into your home who was uninvited and unwanted?
-Don- SSF, CA[/size][/quote] Geeze, Don, I THOUGHT the South Vietnamese DID invite us, and I'm reasonably that the North Vietnamese were the ones who were in the South uninvited. I can't remember many South Vietnamese going to the North -- uninvited... Then there was that pesky thing of a treaty with the South that said we would help them if they needed it....
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Post by jerryfmcompushaft on Mar 5, 2013 9:55:31 GMT -5
Don - You can speak of rigged elections all you want but in the final analysis, the NORTH invaded the SOUTH - not the other way around. And if the South wanted so much to be a communist country, why was an invasion by the North necessary?
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Post by Swampy on Mar 5, 2013 10:04:13 GMT -5
In 1954, the northern Vietnamese were given the chance to leave, and so many left that the communist government had to stop it.
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