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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2013 19:30:08 GMT -5
The Japs screwed everything up , all was well in Indo-China under French rule , the natives were very happy living under the Tri-Color . Problems developed however when the benevolent French wanted the un-washed to return to servtude .
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Post by boxcar on Mar 5, 2013 23:36:01 GMT -5
Mule>the natives were very happy living under the Tri-Color .<
Sounds like you are reading history written by DeGaul.
Right after WWII the French clashed with the Vietnamese when they tried to repossess their former colony. The French demanded aircraft from the US and then damned us for not sending enough. The French Foreign Legion lost the war with the Vietnamese.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 0:19:32 GMT -5
Might consder my post was a bit of satire . but le Frac did request IKE to send some B-29'S to bomb the Viet Minh ( Ho's People ) at Diem bein phu , IKE gave it some consideration , but colonazation had become unpopular in the '40s - '60s even the Empire had to give up. its colonies , today the Empire consisits of england and the falkline islands
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Post by Sir John on Mar 6, 2013 0:46:07 GMT -5
"Empire consisits of england and the falkline islands"
I shall resist the temptation.
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Post by boxcar on Mar 6, 2013 1:19:48 GMT -5
Bend over Mule!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 8:18:55 GMT -5
OK for sake of arguement I'll throw in Wales and N.Ireland
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 10:30:16 GMT -5
Dieppe , was there really an objective here , whatever the Canadians took they could not hold , the Canadians did not have the nessasary back up , also what was the plan to evacuate , what was the Empires Navy and RAF doing .
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Post by Swampy on Mar 6, 2013 10:52:30 GMT -5
It was a large-scale raid, to help take pressure off the Russians.
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Post by Sir John on Mar 6, 2013 15:31:34 GMT -5
I believe it was also a dress rehearsal for Normandy. A test if you will, but I am certain the lessons learned saved many lives in 1944.
SJ
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 16:32:37 GMT -5
It was a dog and pony show all it did was amaze the Germans that the Empire would try such a thing .
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Post by Sir John on Mar 6, 2013 16:53:37 GMT -5
Maybe it was, but my point still stands.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2013 17:35:52 GMT -5
Americans had something similar in the Pacific called Tarawa , they had bombed and shelled the thing for a month a Island 3 miles long and 3/4s of a mile wide , it turned out to be a bloody mess it took the 2nd Marine Div. off the board for two years , much of it resulted because the powers to be didn't listen to the Aussies who tried to tell 'em about the tide table . There is no way the the invasion of a Div. of Canadians at Dieppe were going to take the pressure off the Russian front , the Canadians were nothing but a sacrefice .
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Post by dontom on Mar 7, 2013 15:47:49 GMT -5
In 1954, the northern Vietnamese were given the chance to leave, and so many left that the communist government had to stop it. When why did the 1958 all-Vietnam vote never happen? Who was it that didn't want this vote, the north or the south? And why?
-Don- SSF, CA
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Post by dontom on Mar 7, 2013 15:56:32 GMT -5
Geeze, Don, I THOUGHT the South Vietnamese DID invite us, and I'm reasonably that the North Vietnamese were the ones who were in the South uninvited. I can't remember many South Vietnamese going to the North -- uninvited...Then there was that pesky thing of a treaty with the South that said we would help them if they needed it.... Of all Vietnam, those who wanted us there wasn't the majority. And what treaty are you referring too? Was that part of the same treaty that included the 1958 all-Vietnam elections?
-Don- SSF, CA
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Post by Swampy on Mar 7, 2013 16:38:46 GMT -5
When why did the 1958 all-Vietnam vote never happen? Who was it that didn't want this vote, the north or the south? And why? I don't know - I was thinking of the 1954 partition, when over a million Vietnamese left the north. I understand there was supposed to be a vote, and it never went through, but I'll say I don't know much about that.
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